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chadalicious's picture
River bet sizing check

 I oppolagize in advance for the text format but im having issues converting carbon pokers histories. this is my fourth match with villain.reads so far,villain calls way too wide from the BB,plays roughly 80% of hands,cant fold from the SB wether he open raises or open limps,he will flat raises OTB with hands like 82s,T6o to 3bets and raises. villain isnt terrible tricky,but cant seem to find the fold button,he called 3 streets with BTM pair no kicker on AK2T9ccc,he also called 66 2 streets on a draw heavy broadway flop.villain over values A high. Cbet here is standard for sure,turn bet also (though maybe i could have sized it bigger)villain is rarely folding an A,there is now a club draw,and he is never folding 22-66.i think at this point i would have heard from an OP we river the nuts and now im wondering if an all in over bet is worth it here,it looks super bluffy like we bricked a turned draw or want to push him off a split,the case 8 is obv never folding but neither is a 7.not sure how often he calls with A high but he has it in him.Merge Game #56856896-1 (Tournament) | Holdem NL | 2012/06/13 03:16:24 -0400Table Rattlesnake Room - Turbo Heads Up, 56856888, Seats 2 (Tournament: Rattlesnake Room - Turbo Heads Up, 56856888 Buy-In: $0+$0.00)Seat 1: Bularific ($1,490.00 in chips) DEALERSeat 2: franchise003jm ($1,480.00 in chips)Bularific: Post SB $10.00franchise003jm: Post BB $20.00*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Bularific [8d Js]Bularific: Raise $60.00franchise003jm: Call $40.00*** FLOP *** [7d 7c 2s]franchise003jm: CheckBularific: Bet $70.00franchise003jm: Call $70.00*** TURN *** [8c]franchise003jm: CheckBularific: Bet $135.00franchise003jm: Call $135.00*** RIVER *** [8s]franchise003jm: Check  

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his hand range is uncapped

his hand range is uncapped here, since he could have anything from A high to 7X here... such a passive line to play 7X if indeed villain had 7X... the fact tht villain is willing to call u down on multiple streets, signals tht he's likely to hero call u on the riverFlop:7(d)7(c)2(s) is a flop devoid of FD or SD,,, villains continuance range consists mainly of overcard floats, and mid-pocket pair where he is setting up a check call 3-street line.... since his range is uncapped by river, u have imo 2 options...POt size on river:530remaining effective stacks:1235u can basically take the play for stacks option off of ur list.....option 1: bet 180-200= thin value vs villain, since he is likely to call u with K/A-high in this spot, and he isnt likely to fold PP here.. more geared towards passive villainur line is only consistent with 7X, villain is never putting u on runner-runner 8-full in this spot... option 2: overbet vs thinking opponents: reasoning: thinking players knw tht u have a polarized nuts/air ratio on the river when  overbet... combinatorically speaking its less likely u have 7X,8X, since the board double-paired.. and its hard to put u on runnered 8-full.... here, he is more likely to herocall u,, more board texture aware....u always see hands where villain would call ur overbet on flop: 9TJQK,when ur holding AX, whereas, they were hoping for chop./....overbet, to make ur play look more bluffish... its more of a meta vs villain, if u have the overbet play in ur arsenal...