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HEAT's picture
Rypac - NASH pusyh range

Could you put Ryhpacs nash push range graphic/template up on the site... ty

Il Monk's picture
Don't know exactl of you

Don't know exactl of you asked this but here is a template. The only thing is on the lower stakes you must pay attention to the calling range cause most villain aren't using this chart, and shove a tighter range.http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hune.html

RyPac13's picture
I'm not sure what my range

I'm not sure what my range refers to specifically.It might be something I offer as a very quick and fairly effective solution (which is shoving Nash SB range up to ~10bb, maybe 12bb if you're very new and not yet developed in 10-30bb strategy, and then adding 2 points to the Nash call range.This is by no means technically perfect or heavily tested.  It's just a basic "SB ranges are good, BB ranges are too loose" theory and a fast and easy adjustment to make it work fine for you.I'll look and see who I have to ask to get some charts hosted here, starting with the original Nash chart.

Death Crusader's picture
^In the videos the coaches

^In the videos the coaches recommend being a little tighter than nash suggests, and I'm a little confused by this. By tighter do they mean that instead of pushing/folding(following nash) at ~13bb to follow nash at ~10bb or less; or do they mean this, for example in the nash chart it says you can push q6o at 9.6bb, do they mean you should be pushing it at ~6 or 7 bb deep instead?

RyPac13's picture
Yea, what I'm basically

Yea, what I'm basically saying above as a "rule of thumb/fast" strategy is:DO NOT play shove or fold deeper than 12bbs (usually 10bb max, but it depends on both your skills and your opponent's, sometimes for newer players or players facing opponents better than them it makes sense to still push fold as deep as 12bb).Once you decide to play shove or fold, generally push a range similar to the Nash SB range and follow their requirements (BB requirements).  Since you're not playing shove or fold deeper than 10-12bbs you won't need to worry about a number that says 20, basically any number higher than your effective stack size will be a shove, and you won't use this chart if you're deeper than 10-12 bbs.When you're OOP, you usually face players that have a shoving range tighter than Nash SB.  Therefore, it's usually correct to call with a OOP range that is tighter than Nash OOP suggests.  You can just add 2 points as a basic rule of thumb.  It's by no means scientifically correct or anything, just a fast, easy, rule of thumb.If an opponent is shoving wide, something similar to the Nash SB pushing range (or wider) just use the Nash OOP Chart exactly.Note: You don't get to "decide" whether or not to play shove or fold OOP.  If your opponent is mostly shoving or folding, you'll probably want to reference the chart in some way.  If they are shoving only once in awhile, you can think about what types of hands they are shoving and the best type of range to adjust to their shoving hands.Let me know if that makes sense.

Death Crusader's picture
Yea, tha's a lot clearer

Yea, tha's a lot clearer thanks. But jus to make sure, if the effective stack sizes was 9bb and we are dealt q6o we should be shoving(from my previous example)?

RyPac13's picture
Yes, I would usually shove in

Yes, I would usually shove in that situation.