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AlDam's picture
Sklansky-Chubukov : Where do i get it wrong?

So we and the villain both are sitting with 1.1 BB. We found ourselves in the SB with 23o. According to Sklansky/Chubukov rankings , 23o should be pushed when the effective stacks > 0.9 BB are, therefore in our example (effective stacks 1.1BB) is a fold. A fold is - 0.5 BB in EV. But if we go all in, and the opponent perfectly calls, then we lose approximately 0.38 BB each time, which makes clearly a push better than a fold.So how come Slansky/Chubukov suggests a fold when a push (with the criteria met, our opponent is calling perfectly) has a  greater EV than fold? What am I getting wrong? Thanks!

Barrin's picture
On page 1 of the ebook,

On page 1 of the ebook, mersenneary writes that there is learning which is +EV (=usefull, because it increases your income) and learning which is completely useless. Learning about a situation that might occure 1 out of 5 Million times (just writting down big numbers) is completely waste of anybodys time, simply because this situation will rarely occure.

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AlDam's picture
that has nothing to do with

that has nothing to do with the specific situation, this has to do with the understanding of slanksy/chubukov rankings and why the maths dont agree (i must do something wrong, and this is what im trying to find out)

RyPac13's picture
As far as I know, SC just

As far as I know, SC just tells you the largest stack size that you could literally turn your hand over, allow your opponent to play perfectly vs you, and you'd still do better than folding.It doesn't tell you the most +EV play vs different ranges, simply how deep you could still be better than open folding a hand if your opponent has the perfect calling range vs your hand.In practice, it's not very helpful to heads up sng players. First of all, 8bb+, there are limps and raises to consider, which SC does not factor in at all.Second, you'll never turn your hand over vs your opponent and your opponent will rarely play the perfect calling range against an individual hand.