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TT vs river donk when flop cbet was c/c and turn was checked back?

I am a few hands into the first match against this villain. 

I have already seen him limp and jam over a 3x, suggesting he may have some trapping instincts. 

I have TT, and min raise, obviously calling a 3b jam. 

Villain flats and the flop comes AK5 r.

Basically cbetting here with my entire preflop opening range on this board.

1. What are your thoughts about checking back w hand that doesn't get much value from betting and bluff catching turn/river? 

 

Villain flats.

I expect his range to be mostly Kx, 5x, gutshots like QJ, QT & JT, and @ 25BB some Ax like A7-A2 + vs villain who has shown some tendency towards trapping, maybe some stronger Ax too. 

 

There is not much value in 2barreling turn and I expect most of villain's weak show down value will check to me on the river allowing me to realise whatever shown down value (if any) I have at this stage with my TT which is unlikely to improve (unless I hit one of the 2 Ts). 

I check back turn and villain donks out full pot on the river. 

This is usually a value line so I weight his range heavily towards, Kx, Ax, BD FD that got there. 

He will sometimes lead with his gutshot holdings that he c/c the flop with but I don't think he has enough of those relative to his value holdings that I can bluffcatch w TT here. 

So I fold. 

2. Am I narrowing villain's range too much here? If he had more floats on the flop, he can have more bluffs on the river. Do you think my assessment of his line is reasonable?

3. Should I have a checking back range on this flop at all, given I will be bluffing it with such a wide range when checked to in position with the initiative in a single raised pot? 

I tend to think that we have so much fold equity vs villain's range on this board that it may simply be worth more in expectation to cbet and take down the majority of the time compared to checking back and sometimes seeing villain spew one street? 

 

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players

$6.85+$0.15

Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

SB Hero 490  
BB GUN1808 510  

Effective Stacks: 25bb

Blinds 10/20

Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)

Hero is SB

dThT

Hero raises to 40, GUN1808 calls 20

Flop (80, 2 players)

sKhAc5

GUN1808 checks, Hero bets 40, GUN1808 calls 40

Turn (160, 2 players)

s9

GUN1808 checks, Hero checks

River (160, 2 players)

s4

GUN1808 bets 160, Hero folds

Final Pot: 160

GUN1808 wins 320 ( won +80 )

Hero lost -80

RyPac13's picture
I think the hand is played

I think the hand is played well.
It's not a hand I feel awesome about, but the way I see it... you make some good points about preflop trapping, though seeing that type of aggression from a villain early on combined with this I feel like also can point us towards him being one that bluffs a ton in bad spots too.
The thought there, however, is that if he bluffs a lot here, the call is clearly the right play, but if he isn't bluffing here, the call is horrible. I'd lean towards him not bluffing here moreso than bluffing, so combining all of that my advice would be to fold.
I think the cbet is fine, you get plenty of folds. A 30 chip bet usually gets players to fold just as high a % on this board, so maybe even consider that.