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n1te1337's picture
Turn min raise + 1/3 pot river bet. Call or fold?

1st hand of the game

PokerStars Game, $33.00+$1.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20)
Seat 1: villan (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: n1te1337 (1500 in chips)
villan: posts small blind 10
n1te1337: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n1te1337 [Kc Qs]
villan: calls 10
n1te1337: raises 60 to 80
villan: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Qh 3s 4s]
n1te1337: bets 100
villan: calls 100
*** TURN *** [Qh 3s 4s] [9s]
n1te1337: bets 240
villan: raises 240 to 480
n1te1337: calls 240
*** RIVER *** [Qh 3s 4s 9s] [Ac]
n1te1337: checks
villan: bets 480

I know that Ive invested almost half of my stack and Im getting 3.75:1 on this call but I think that Im almost never good here.

n1te1337: folds
villan collected 1320 from pot
villan: doesn't show hand

Should I have called the river bet?

 

n1te1337

cymonguk's picture
me too

Im no great player but in that circumstance its a tough one, very player dependent...
I guess the main question is around the turn.. Do you think he has you when he reraises or not? I suppose if I thought he didnt have the two spades I would shove him or I would fold if i thought he did.
reasoning:
he has two spades; then he has me beat right now, but i know you are getting 5:1 pot odds for the river call, if you improve you probably have him beat, but you are >6:1 to hit
he has one spade; then you are ahead most likely with 5:1 PO, and a bit over 5:1 on cards, probably ahead of him with only K/A available
 
I think a lot of agg players would raise like this with the turn card if they have a single spade, if you shove him and he has the spade he probably doesn't fold unless it is very low
 
Or I may be talking bollux
 

seeya's picture
Here ID awlays RERAISE turn

Here ID awlays RERAISE turn ALLIN.
 


RyPac13's picture
Reraising the turn is fine

Reraising the turn is fine BUT this is like the only river card I really dislike to see.  I wouldn't mind getting it all in on any card except a non suited ace (So I guess there are 2-3 cards you don't want to see).

n1te1337's picture
thx

Thanks for the answers guys, helped me a lot :)

n1te1337

cymonguk's picture
to the question

on the original question: would i call the river?
I think the answer is probably not, and i would be peeved lol