No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBfarlop2440 BTNHero560 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 80, farlop calls 40 Flop (160, 2 players) farlop checks, Hero checks Turn (160, 2 players) farlop checks, Hero bets 80, farlop calls 80 River (320, 2 players) farlop checks, Hero....Villain is loose and passive on the turn I think I can get value from 9,s some 7s and some draws, do you think I can ever get worse hands to call on the river or am I folding out everything worse and only getting called by better?
and even if I can get worse to call do you think it would be enough to make it +EV?
I would definetly value bet here. Your opponent is loose and passive so 9's 7's 4's 5's is in his range a lot I think, and since he's loose he will call you decent ammount of the time. If he had a better ace or 2 pair or smth like that it's just bad luck. I thing this is a very good spot to bet for value something like 140 chips should be a good ammount not to scare a 9 or a 7 off so you can get decent value from it. Correct me if my thought process is wrong.
I'm not sure I'm just thinking that when I bet when an A comes after checking the flop and the barrel the river, it looks very much like an A. so I don't know if even a loose player will call the river with a 7 or a 4?
Well either way if we won't call the I don't think that he would bet the river with those hands so giving it a shot is worth it :)
I would bet on turn 110 up to 130 and then blockbet the river just under half the pot but 1 on 3 times I would check the river.
14bb eff A2o is definetly an openpush as offence against flatcall. On the river i like the puhs, bacuase 9x( if he has it in the range ) and 7x cauld make a call aftar a load of busted draw.
UrbanYeah I agree with you on the turn bet size, you think this river bet size will get more calls from 7s and 9s then? why 1/3 of the time for balance? I don't think I need to worry about balance at this level it's a $7.50 game.elekamatewhat you mean just open push it from the sb? or overbet open push the flop? Yeah thats a good argument for the river shove I'm just not sure that the villain would even notice a load of missed draws or not is the thing?Thanks for the replies guys
Sorry guys I didnt see the flop well. So I see now that all draws are missed except 86. So I think he is defenetly on draw since if he has an A he would raise u on turn to protect flushdraws and other draws. and maybe has a pair and gotshot. So I would defenetly bet about half pot Size on the river 100%. My river bet should be define base on reeding your player earlyer in the match.
I think pf shove is not a good think because edge is just to small cause all Ax and small pairs dominates you.
I would jam pre, I think our hand plays very poorly when we minraise and get flatted and don't flop an ace. I don't have the s-c charts handy but I'm pretty sure jamming A2o shows a profit with our cards exposed so there's no reason to be concerned it isn't at least a little profitable to open jam. After we get here though, this is a fist pump vbet on the river. I'd be shocked if we weren't good here upwards of 85% of the time and if he's loose we should expect him to call with a ton of the one pair hands you're ahead of. Bet sizing is at least somewhat interesting, I'd probably just bet like 200 but it might be better to jam against someone fairly stubborn
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What about limping pre?
No I think this is a terrible hand to limp--limping accomplishes keeping SPR high and seeing more flops, inducing preflop jams from weak hands and saving money against aggro 3bettors. A2o basically doesn't want any of those things, with the slight exception of inducing preflop jams (but we can simply mr/call if we want to accomplish this). Also with a hand that flops poorly we don't want 63o and such to realize free equity against us.
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So what is your defualt pf strategy then when the effective stack is say 15bb or smaller? I usually limp every hand I'm going to play once stacks are around this size to protect against resteals and to keep the pot small, so I don't lose most of my stack when a min raise and a cbet doesn't work, I do this until around 8bb then start jamming or folding. I take it this isn't a good plan though?