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220$ Some hands vs known HUSNG reg

some hands i played today at the 220$ level vs IT2WUi was very surprised when he sat me, i know im not all that great in turbos, or at least not like he is, but i just feel like its not really cool, to sit one of your  former students after them talking strat with you, and you shaping their game and then sitting you, but whatever, its  no biggie, and he has to protect his lobbys i guess so whatever, just need some input so i can play better vs him in the future... these where the only noteworthy hands, in the end at 25bbs, he minraised and i shipped 55 he snapped KQo im also wondering if this is standard/good play? KQo will VERY often be dominated by my reshipping range, or flipping. esp at 25bbs at 12 it would be diff, but at 25 i feel like all hes ever seeing is A9+ KT+ and 22+in the first hand, i wonder, what his possible holdings could be, for him to fold the turn there for 500 more, i also wonder, if he would have the nut flushdraw for example, should he call?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNITRIED2WARNU1690  BBHero1310  Effective Stacks: 26bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB ITRIED2WARNU raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 110, Hero raises to 275, ITRIED2WARNU calls 165 Turn (750, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 400, Hero goes all-in 935, ITRIED2WARNU folds Final Pot: 2085 Hero wins 2085 ( won +775 ) ITRIED2WARNU lost -775   No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNITRIED2WARNU1810  BBHero1190  Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB ITRIED2WARNU raises to 80, Hero calls 40 Flop (160, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 90, Hero calls 90 Turn (340, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 200, Hero calls 200 River (740, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU checks Final Pot: 740 ITRIED2WARNU shows Hero shows Hero wins 740 ( won +370 ) ITRIED2WARNU lost -370 Here i float the flop for my runner runner striaght draw, runner runner flush draw and my gutshot, but figure on the turn, its better to give up but once on the river, i remember ITRIED told me when he was coaching me, u always have to think what does villain want to achieve with his betsizing? so i thought if i bet smallish it would look like im trying to get value ofc, i get unlucky and he has TP -,- but still need a linecheck on it really... not even sure if floating the flop  is good.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNITRIED2WARNU1075  BBHero1925  Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 30/60 Pre-Flop (90, 2 players) Hero is BB ITRIED2WARNU raises to 120, Hero calls 60 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 130, Hero calls 130 Turn (500, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU checks River (500, 2 players) Hero bets 215, ITRIED2WARNU calls 215 Final Pot: 930 ITRIED2WARNU shows Hero shows ITRIED2WARNU wins 930 ( won +465 ) Hero lost -465Here i get way too far out of the box and fuck up, however, im not fully convinced im beat on river tho tbh altho i dont see him bluffing A high on the turn/river while that is pretty much only thing that is in his flop calling range that he floats with vs my flop c/r range that i beat now.so meh, also dno spot  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNITRIED2WARNU1515  BBHero1485  Effective Stacks: 50bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB ITRIED2WARNU raises to 60, Hero calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 60, Hero raises to 165, ITRIED2WARNU calls 105 Turn (450, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 200, Hero calls 200 River (850, 2 players) Hero checks, ITRIED2WARNU bets 1090, Hero folds Final Pot: 1940 ITRIED2WARNU wins 1940 ( won +425 ) Hero lost -425

mersenneary's picture
I'll let some others take a

I'll let some others take a shot at these before I add some advice. I will say from the start that KQ is a call against most people, and he doesn't know your specific re-shipping range. Calling it off is standard.

JSH06's picture
I'm not sure you rep a lot on

I'm not sure you rep a lot on that 9s7s hand.  You probably don't have any (very little at best) 4x in your range that shallow.  KQ 3bets pre.  KJs 3bets pre & maybe you do w. KJo as well.  KTs 3bets pre & probably jams flop or at least leads turn. The same obv goes for KTo postflop.  K6s is about the only reasonable Kx hand you make it to that river with.  All other river value hands probably fold earlier in the hand.

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i think leading the 97ss hand

i think leading the 97ss hand is optimal, c/c even with bdfd seems way too weak specially against a good player (that already has a grasp about your play) and c/f is meh bc i would assume he cbets a fair bit so he can be cbetting pretty much ATC here, maybe u can make an argument for c/r but flop is so dry that i think he is calling u off very light

grasiu's picture
I know that this is years

I know that this is years old, but seeing response to this would be nice.Also what KQ is Mers talking about?

braminc's picture
i think mers was saying KQ

i think mers was saying KQ raise/call at 25bbs is standard vs most players (wide) reshove ranges.  I think it's a mistake to just flat 44 pre 26bb deep just because he raise/called KQ last time... of course it depends a bit on IT2Wu's opening %.  But generally I don't think we can really assume implied odds are good enough to flat a small pair here.   Id reship 44 preI play T8s the sameId reship 79s as well for 18bbs, doesnt flop TP enough, not amazing implied odds for str8s/flushes, plus its just such a good hand to have in your reshove range.  As played, i'd lead or c/r or c/f flop.  c/c seems a bit desparate (ive been there so many times!)K4s, vs a player who plays back and/or expects you to play back a lot, i prefer c/c TT5cc flop (or of course c/f is always fine :P).  You have showdown value + you can rep Tx and flushes well by leading turn (or c/c a turned 4/K).  But the stronger the villain, the more i just like a c/f on that hand...

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mersenneary's picture
KQ was to JTS' initial

KQ was to JTS' initial description.Reship 44 pre, for sure. ITRIED's turn size sucks big time here - there's no need to bet so big if he's just floating thinking JTS has air a big %, trying to take the pot away on the turn. JTS's range is super polarized. A small bet is all that's necessary to fold out the air portion.T8 hand is fine. There are regs who simply don't double barrel enough and you can fold here vs them, but bad readless on this board given all the draws and the fact that ITRIED is competent enough.79s is close readless, it's a +EV shove but going to have very good expectation flatting as well, iirc ITRIED's opening range at this tack depth is wide enough that jamming pre is best. Kind of a weird spot post given stack sizes. 130 on this board is more likely to be air with him (obv you're not going to know that) but it's weird trying to decide whether to check/raise or not given remaining stack depths. Many regs you can lead here and they won't have the stones to play back. I'm OK with just flatting, your river bet doesn't rep a ton though, you're c/r Tx on the flop almost always so this is either a weird 6x or an inducing play with Kx. The thing is bigger doesn't really represent a lot either except for 4x, but there are obvious missed draws for you to have.On the TT5 since you're only going to c/r some of the time you might as well just only always do it with at least two overs to 5x, kind of doesn't make a lot of sense to pick a hand like K4. Hand is fine after that.