Today has been a good day so far. Our dog is doing much better now after his stroke - still a long way to full recovery, but I think I can safely say that he made some good progress so far. I'm spending this week at my parent's place and now, after he went to sleep, I went upstairs to my old room to work and also spend some time in the forum.At the moment, I'm playing a very short session, only single-tabling and trying to focus on every single decision. It's actually -EV for me to play at the moment, because there's a decent chance that I have to quit mid-game, so I'm basically seeing this as a learning session.
Unknown guy; I opened my first 5 buttons in a row, he called 3 times and c/f otf.Standard to gii with two overs and a gutshot ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero460 BBamartøre540 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, amartøre calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) amartøre bets 80, Hero goes all-in 420, amartøre calls 340 Turn (920, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (920, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 920
Don't have a huge sample size, but he has been opening 65% over ~150 hands. I would have 3bet-jammed this hand for 18bb against him, is that ok ?Was really unsure whether to look him up otr - imo, he's very polarized between Ax and air here, but he's definitely capable of leveling me into hero-calling.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBDonk King1580 BBHero420 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBDonk King1 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Donk King1 bets 30, Hero calls 30 Turn (140, 2 players) Hero checks, Donk King1 checks River (140, 2 players) Hero checks, Donk King1 bets 140, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 280
First hand against a guy with not so great results on SS.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBjanfryed500 BBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBjanfryed raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, janfryed bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, janfryed bets 60, Hero calls 60 River (280, 2 players) Hero checks, janfryed bets 80, Hero calls 80 Final Pot: 440
Midpair no kicker against a reg.I would fold to the flop c/r against a fish, but a reg should certainly see this as a board where I'll cbet my entire range, so I expect to get bluff-raised here a decent amount. However, I didn't have any previous history with this guy, so I obviously don't know that he's c/r'ing dry boards wide - but based on population tendencies, the average reg should do that.However, with just a psb behind, I wasn't sure between flatting and 3bet-jamming as a lot of other turn cards could have put me into a tough spot. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero600 BBcard-paladin400 Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, card-paladin calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) card-paladin checks, Hero bets 30, card-paladin raises to 92, Hero calls 62 Turn (264, 2 players) card-paladin checks, Hero checks River (264, 2 players) card-paladin goes all-in 268, Hero calls 268 Final Pot: 800
I had an old "reg" label from July, but his SS stats since then are really terrible, so I re-labeled him "super fish".Really hate these minbets - he's basically telling me he has a weak 7x here, but I wasn't sure whether he would fold to a raise.I rematched him two times after that, and he only played 15 out of 45 hands buttons, raising 13 and limping 2. So as an adjustment, I would tighten my oop calling range and only play K7o+ / K8s+ - or is that too tight ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero630 SBLuckyKuhn370 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBLuckyKuhn raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, LuckyKuhn bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, LuckyKuhn bets 40, Hero calls 40 River (240, 2 players) Hero checks, LuckyKuhn checks Final Pot: 240
3bet-jamming for value vs flatting against super fish
This guy that I just played against has -5% over 5377 games, avg. stake $12, down $5k.Only played a bit over 100 hands against him where he opened 71% of his buttons and also limped and openjammed a few hands, total SB VP$IP 88%. He's very bad post-flop, so I should have a decent edge against him.After having him seen 3x/call 95s for 18bb and mr/call 79o for 23bb and flat an openjam for ~15bb with T4o - how light should I 3bet-jam for value against him ? Is it a good idea to 3bet-jam a ton when between 20-25bb or would I have a better expectation flatting ?How about a strategy where I 3bet-jam any Ax, K6o+, K5s+, Q7o+, Q6s+ for about 22-20bb - basically everything that has great expectation against his super light flatting range - and widen that to any Ax, any Kx, most Qx when we get below 15bb. And flat a ton of hands that play well post-flop.And on the button, openjam a ton more hands that play poorly postflop but have great expectation against his trash.How does that sound ?
Time to call it a session - it's getting close to 10pm and my mom is going to need to take the dog into the garden soon before they finally go to bed - and I also still have to work a bit tonight.However, I think I can safely say that this was a good session - only played less than 500 hands, but since I was single-tabling, I could focus a lot more on my opponents.Which makes me think that maybe I'll have to re-schedule my grinding sessions in future - playing super long-sessions multi-tabling probably isn't such a good idea, at least I need to find a way to avoid going on auto-pilot.If everything goes well with our dog, then I'll also have a closer look at the other student's threads tomorrow.
K4: i like your line obv. worst value hand i'd barrel off is probably J8. i think players tend to level themselves pretty hard with all the missed draws, that their is enough reason to barrel off some of your JX still. vs thinking players, i'd barrel off all JX bc of the leveling factor.QJ: probably around 17bb deep i think it's fine. you have a decent read she's 3betting a good amount. when you minraise 17 deep you only need 44.1% equity to call a jam - QJ will have that even vs a tight range, and it's pretty likely we dominate some 3bet bluffing hands she'll have.the key here is just that you think she is 3betting light, and this really is a fantastic hand to mr/call vs a wide 3bettor.Q5: i like flop and turn for the reasons you mentioned. river is probably a fold though imo. you just don't see bluffs much here, and the only hands you repped that he could get to fold on river if he's bluffing just got there with the club. pretty unlikely you see air here.AK: yep, i like it, especially given his full pot lead (no point in making a small raise).K9: again, try to have a feel for his opening % at a givne stack depth. the HUD stat is useful, but only if we take it for what it's worth.vs a 65% opener, if he is mr/calling a 'loose 1' range (on pgm linked below)...we have a +0.24bb exp 3bet jamming vs those ranges. i think it's v likely that flatting has better expectation than that, and we don't run the risk about being wrong about how wide he's actually mr or mr/calling.18bb deep vs that frequency it's not even close.fwiw, if you are going to 3bet jam these K9 QTs type hands (high mid-connected) around 19+ stx...i definitely like a nai-3b with them like we would do w KQ/KJ for basically the same reasons. it's not like we are 3bet shoving and getting KQ/KJ or maybe even a few worse hands to fold anyways. by nai-3b these hands, a lot of villains KQ type stuff will just flat and we will do better against them bc when villain airballs flop we win the pot with a cb. A6: i would fold river readless. don't think you see bluffs often enough. everything else looks good.76: i like your turn check. i wouldn't overdo this kind of spot, but i think this is a particularly good texture/stack depth for it. you aren't worried about giving up free equity, and the stack:pot is such that you can jam river easily still. allow villain to possibly hero-bluff river too, or pick up some wierd sd value he decides to be a station with.you are stacking a Q whether you bet or check. even if villain won't be a station or will never bluff river, if he has any KX in his range it's still sooo worth a check for that small % of time he hits a K and then obv can't fold. K5: i think i have made it clear that i hate your use of the term 'super fish', esp when it comes to labeling regs. maybe his stats haven't been good, but does he actually play and think like a fish? should we be using fish pop tends when estimating his ranges? probably not. he likely thinks like a bad reg, and that's a drastic difference from how we treat a fish.i'd just fold turn, you aren't getting odds to call on that board even vs the small sizing (you only have 10% at best to improve). i doubt if villain bets turn with a hand we beat he actually checks river too. so ya, just fold.
This guy that I just played against has -5% over 5377 games, avg. stake $12, down $5k.Only played a bit over 100 hands against him where he opened 71% of his buttons and also limped and openjammed a few hands, total SB VP$IP 88%. He's very bad post-flop, so I should have a decent edge against him.After having him seen 3x/call 95s for 18bb and mr/call 79o for 23bb and flat an openjam for ~15bb with T4o - how light should I 3bet-jam for value against him ? Is it a good idea to 3bet-jam a ton when between 20-25bb or would I have a better expectation flatting ?i'd just 3bet jam something like the top 35% of hands vs him approx if he's really raise/calling that light at all stack depths. if he's not raise calling quite that light at deeper stacks, i'd still 3bet a wide value range but would nai-3b somet QTo JTs 40-120 to get flatted by some hands that would fold to a jam (i assume he's not raise/folding anything better than those hands anyways)but ya, i wouldn't bother trying to 3b bluff him or anything obv.How about a strategy where I 3bet-jam any Ax, K6o+, K5s+, Q7o+, Q6s+ for about 22-20bb - basically everything that has great expectation against his super light flatting range - and widen that to any Ax, any Kx, most Qx when we get below 15bb. And flat a ton of hands that play well post-flop.And on the button, openjam a ton more hands that play poorly postflop but have great expectation against his trash.How does that sound ?put in what you estimate his raise/calling range to be at a given stack depth into pokerstove. plug in different hands and see what kinds of expectations you get. hands like JTo and J9s etc are likely to be 3bet shoves against him if he's raise calling 76s/97o T4s type stuff a bunch.it's hard to be too perfect about it though. just jam for value a lot and be realistic about when/if he starts adjusting. make sure you don't get blinded by the fact he raise called 97o type stuff a few times when tilted, when in reality he hasn't done it in 10 games. not saying that's the case, but something to consider.
i'll be thinking about your dog. he's very old right? 15 years? what breed is he?brittney says she remembers the picture you showed her of the HUGE boxes of dog food, lol
[98 on QJxss] What if we Donkbet turn and he raises 3x. Fold since he can have some blockers to our hand so were not doing that well? [K4o on J73ss.K.9] Could you explain why it was a good board to 3barell agaisnt regs. Kan see what he would call our river jam with? [Q5 on Q44cc.6.3c] Once he cr and barell that turn which is a bad turn card to barell as a bluff, cant we just fold the turn then? [AK on JT2r] Jam over a pottsize DB? I thought i was a call and fold turn if not improved since we are behind against pair and some of them have blocker to our draw. [K9 on Q33.3.A] On the river, fold since we dont have any Ax in our range 18bb and he can rep it better and at best we might be chopping?
Thanks :-) Yeah, he just turned 15, which is really old for a Dalmatian.And today, he's walking on all his four legs again, I'm so happy about that :-)
Saw this guy opensit, had an old fish label from July. Just SS'ed him again and he's a recreational player with only 1200 Hypers in total. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBig-BankCash530 BBHero470 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBBig-BankCash raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, Big-BankCash goes all-in 470, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 590Easy fold here, but then a few hands later:No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBig-BankCash470 BBHero530 Effective Stacks: 24bbBlinds 10/20Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BB Big-BankCash calls 10, Hero checks Flop (40, 2 players) Hero checks, Big-BankCash bets 40, Hero raises to 100, Big-BankCash calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 100, Big-BankCash calls 100 River (440, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 310, Big-BankCash foldsFinal Pot: 750 He was very tight at his button, only played 8 out of 20 hands in total, but most of these while we got more shallow, he already openjammed a few buttons in a row prior to this hand. While we were deeper, I've seen him 3x with AK and openfold a lot.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBig-BankCash555 BBHero445 Effective Stacks: 11bbBlinds 20/40Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)Hero is BB Big-BankCash goes all-in 555, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 595
When someone is very tight on his button and he previously 3x'ed - how much do you tighten up if you have a hand that you'd normally gii with readless ? Does it make a difference if he 4x'es ?
I have this guy labeled as weak reg with the note that his bb vpip is too low. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBohlamon48470 BBHero530 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBohlamon48 raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, ohlamon48 calls 60 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, ohlamon48 checks Turn (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, ohlamon48 foldsFinal Pot: 300 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBohlamon48350 SBHero650 Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, ohlamon48 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ohlamon48 checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) ohlamon48 checks, Hero bets 40, ohlamon48 raises to 120, Hero goes all-in 610, ohlamon48 goes all-in 190 River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: 1000
Which brings up another question:If someone is a reg, but some of his frequencies are wrong - for instance he's only playing 45% of his hands oop or he's folding a ton to small 3bets - is it a good idea to rematch / sit him as long as he doesn't adjust ?
... but we have something that we would have jammed over a normal open.This guy was also very bluffy post-flop.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBmAsI4eVa380 BBHero620 Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BBmAsI4eVa raises to 150
Limping strategy ?This guy is really weird. His SS is blocked, but on pokeroptimizer.com, he is break-even from December till end of January, then made ~$80k within two weeks, then lost $60k again. 2.6% ROI over 981 games @ $1000, 4.6% ROI over 499 games @ $100, 5% over 406 games at $500.SB VPIP is > 80%, but PFR < 50%, seen him limp for less than 5bb.How much should I attack his limps when we get shallower ? And much tighter should I call his openjams ? I think this Q8 hand was a mistake.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBlynnstrait570 BBHero430 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BB lynnstrait calls 15, Hero raises to 100, lynnstrait calls 70 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 90, lynnstrait foldsFinal Pot: 290 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBlynnstrait390 BBHero610 Effective Stacks: 10bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)Hero is BB lynnstrait goes all-in 390, Hero calls 350 Flop (780, 2 players, 1 all-in)Turn (780, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (780, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 780
K4o: i would only check flop if you think he is the type to stab a lot. if that was your reasoning, i like the c/r - tho honestly i'd just chk/shv flop with 4X + good kicker. a small c/r really doesn't add any value, it actually just gives him an easier chance to get off his hand somehow (i.e., he flats c/r with 45 and flop is a heart and he folds to a bet or something). seriously doubt most players are folding any 4X to a chk/shv..also i think some players will make some ridic calls with 56/67 too. i think you really don't induce much from any worse stuff with a c/r either. kind of a wierd spot bc of his pot sized bet - i would like a smaller c/r if he bet smaller fwiw (stack:pot). maybe i'm being a little nit-picky here, i think you played it ok as played.T9s: looks like a fold to me, esp based on your description. you need 45.5% to call, so estimate his range and see if you have proper equity.TT: i would probably still just chk the turn. you don't get any value, and we don't need to bet to protect equity. he's going to have checked back the flop with a lot of K/QX too. if we get bluffed here it sucks, but with us having 2 T's he doesn't have a lot of his weaker flatting combos in 3b calling range. so going to be a little hard for him to have enough air here imo. also, someone with a low bb vpip prob isn't the time to call 3bets light either, so his range should be pretty tight overall.A7: i just don't think you get called by worse enough when you raise here. i prefer flatting and letting him bluff some rivers or c/c rivers. you rep this card a little too well to raise vs a thinking player, esp at a stack depth where we'd pretty rarely/if ever bluff here. just don't see a lot of value in raising, and protecting equity isn't a good enough reason imo.
the minbetting hands: the J9 i'd just fold the flop, you don't have enough equity to call imo...can see a call if he's checking turns a lot and folding to rivers but thats about it. i like a c/r with this particular hand more than a c/c, tho i like folding most (don't thinkt his type player enjoys folding to a c/r much). other hands look ok to me.just remember that when someone gives you great odds like that, it doesn't mean you have to continue with your entire range. you will have PLENTY of hands in your range that can profitably continue vs these sizings (tho not so much on Q55 board, but that just proves why a 35% pot cbet works just fine on those boards typically).
Which brings up another question:If someone is a reg, but some of his frequencies are wrong - for instance he's only playing 45% of his hands oop or he's folding a ton to small 3bets - is it a good idea to rematch / sit him as long as he doesn't adjust ?approximate your roi vs reg and your roi vs your avg fish. if your roi vs reg is > avg fish, then continue playing the reg. that's the luxury of playing mid stakes and lower. i do think playing regs without a big edge occasionally is important to build skill though.
K8:"... but we have something that we would have jammed over a normal open."this isn't always good enough of a reason to do something obv. we can adjust better than our standard play with specific reads, and that should be our goal. you are relatively readless about his 5x'ing range though here. also, jamming K8o against a minraise 12-13 deep is best bc of fold equity most of the time - against a 5x we don't have any fold equity...so we strictly need to have better equity than 46% to get in here. considerign you know he's pretty spewy, and i seriously doubt most players would 5x really strong hands...i'd prob get it in here. but as you can see, i'm getting it in with a totally diff thought process than i would facing a minraise.
KJ and Q8 hands: i would raise KJ a little smaller against the limp, t100 is a better sizing for hands that don't do so well agianst a limp/calling range (77/AK/bluffs). t80/90 for KQ-T9s type stuff bc it dominates more.Q8 call seems fine.
it was fun working with you again, jack. i hope you feel you got solid value out of the program. please feel free to email me with any follow-up questions to my last few posts. you will have read-only access for ~4 weeks. good luck!
Thanks !This was one of the worst weeks of my entire life - and I learned once more how short life is, you may be prepared for the best, but then fate teaches you a very harsh lesson. When our dog got a stroke last Friday, I thought this is it, that we'd have to say goodbye after fifteen long years. Luckily, god gave us another chance, letting him almost fully recover within just a week, and I am very grateful for that.I slept at my parent's place till yesterday, but this is the first night where I really feel at home - watched TV without looking at the phone every few minutes. * * *I was about to say that this came at about the worst time possible - since I had so many plans for these two weeks - but in hindsight, I still think being part of this FT session was a great experience for me and I would not have wanted to miss it. Yeah, I didn't post even close as many questions that I wanted to - nor did I have any time to look at the other student's threads - but being part of it during this extremely tough time tremendously helped me emotionally.Earlier this week, I was extremely anxious about getting back to the tables, but then decided to play a very short session while only single-tabling and posting any question that I'd come up with. But feeling like I wasn't alone really helped me a lot.Then our skype session - where I was completely unprepared, wasn't even sure whether audio would work because I had no time to get my headset from my place and never used the built-in microphone - and I counted three times in a row where mrbambocha asked almost exactly the same question that I was about to ask - and we didn't talk about any of that prior to the session. Felt so good to realize that another good reg has the same questions than me :-)In the end, everything pretty much turned out well these last two days - I was able to grind several hours today, feeling good about it and not constantly looking at my EV line.It also looks like I may have been wrong about my dad, he really cared about the family a lot these days and I finally started to see his side of the story, how hard it must be for him to work in another city, having to say goodbye every sunday. * * *Looking into the future, I am now fully convinced that playing poker for a living is not what I want to do - at least not at the moment. When things turn really ugly in your life, you do not only realize what's important for you, but also what you're truely capable of doing; speaking in Jared Tendler's terms: what I need to do for my current full-time job has been learned till the level of unconsciousness competence - these few days of me being a complete emotional wreck fully proved that, it was about the only thing that I was still capable of doing.Maybe it's also an issue of confidence: I'm good at analying and writing computer programs and I am absolutely confident about that - "variance" could hit me as hard as it wants, it would really take a lot to convince me that I may not be a good software engineer. But the same is not true for poker.However, I think I should see that as a strength, not as a weakness. Having the luxury of not having to play for a living, I can spend as much time as I need to study, and since I can also choose the times where I play, I can play whenever it's most profitable to do so. I am very confident now that I can have a great future as a part-time player. * * *Looking forward to an exciting March - reading over all these FT posts that I missed, lots of new challenges at work and also the opportunity to meet again with old friends - St. Patrick's Day coming up ...Good luck everybody :-)
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Can't really concentrate on studying at the moment - I had so many more questions that I wanted to ask, but seem to have forgotten them all.
Today has been a good day so far. Our dog is doing much better now after his stroke - still a long way to full recovery, but I think I can safely say that he made some good progress so far. I'm spending this week at my parent's place and now, after he went to sleep, I went upstairs to my old room to work and also spend some time in the forum.At the moment, I'm playing a very short session, only single-tabling and trying to focus on every single decision. It's actually -EV for me to play at the moment, because there's a decent chance that I have to quit mid-game, so I'm basically seeing this as a learning session.
Unknown guy; I opened my first 5 buttons in a row, he called 3 times and c/f otf.Standard to gii with two overs and a gutshot ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero460 BBamartøre540 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, amartøre calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) amartøre bets 80, Hero goes all-in 420, amartøre calls 340 Turn (920, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (920, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 920
Don't have a huge sample size, but he has been opening 65% over ~150 hands. I would have 3bet-jammed this hand for 18bb against him, is that ok ?Was really unsure whether to look him up otr - imo, he's very polarized between Ax and air here, but he's definitely capable of leveling me into hero-calling.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBDonk King1580 BBHero420 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Donk King1 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Donk King1 bets 30, Hero calls 30 Turn (140, 2 players) Hero checks, Donk King1 checks River (140, 2 players) Hero checks, Donk King1 bets 140, Hero folds Final Pot: 280
First hand against a guy with not so great results on SS.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBjanfryed500 BBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB janfryed raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, janfryed bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, janfryed bets 60, Hero calls 60 River (280, 2 players) Hero checks, janfryed bets 80, Hero calls 80 Final Pot: 440
Midpair no kicker against a reg.I would fold to the flop c/r against a fish, but a reg should certainly see this as a board where I'll cbet my entire range, so I expect to get bluff-raised here a decent amount. However, I didn't have any previous history with this guy, so I obviously don't know that he's c/r'ing dry boards wide - but based on population tendencies, the average reg should do that.However, with just a psb behind, I wasn't sure between flatting and 3bet-jamming as a lot of other turn cards could have put me into a tough spot. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero600 BBcard-paladin400 Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, card-paladin calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) card-paladin checks, Hero bets 30, card-paladin raises to 92, Hero calls 62 Turn (264, 2 players) card-paladin checks, Hero checks River (264, 2 players) card-paladin goes all-in 268, Hero calls 268 Final Pot: 800
I had an old "reg" label from July, but his SS stats since then are really terrible, so I re-labeled him "super fish".Really hate these minbets - he's basically telling me he has a weak 7x here, but I wasn't sure whether he would fold to a raise.I rematched him two times after that, and he only played 15 out of 45 hands buttons, raising 13 and limping 2. So as an adjustment, I would tighten my oop calling range and only play K7o+ / K8s+ - or is that too tight ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero630 SBLuckyKuhn370 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB LuckyKuhn raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, LuckyKuhn bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, LuckyKuhn bets 40, Hero calls 40 River (240, 2 players) Hero checks, LuckyKuhn checks Final Pot: 240
This guy that I just played against has -5% over 5377 games, avg. stake $12, down $5k.Only played a bit over 100 hands against him where he opened 71% of his buttons and also limped and openjammed a few hands, total SB VP$IP 88%. He's very bad post-flop, so I should have a decent edge against him.After having him seen 3x/call 95s for 18bb and mr/call 79o for 23bb and flat an openjam for ~15bb with T4o - how light should I 3bet-jam for value against him ? Is it a good idea to 3bet-jam a ton when between 20-25bb or would I have a better expectation flatting ?How about a strategy where I 3bet-jam any Ax, K6o+, K5s+, Q7o+, Q6s+ for about 22-20bb - basically everything that has great expectation against his super light flatting range - and widen that to any Ax, any Kx, most Qx when we get below 15bb. And flat a ton of hands that play well post-flop.And on the button, openjam a ton more hands that play poorly postflop but have great expectation against his trash.How does that sound ?
Time to call it a session - it's getting close to 10pm and my mom is going to need to take the dog into the garden soon before they finally go to bed - and I also still have to work a bit tonight.However, I think I can safely say that this was a good session - only played less than 500 hands, but since I was single-tabling, I could focus a lot more on my opponents.Which makes me think that maybe I'll have to re-schedule my grinding sessions in future - playing super long-sessions multi-tabling probably isn't such a good idea, at least I need to find a way to avoid going on auto-pilot.If everything goes well with our dog, then I'll also have a closer look at the other student's threads tomorrow.
K4: i like your line obv. worst value hand i'd barrel off is probably J8. i think players tend to level themselves pretty hard with all the missed draws, that their is enough reason to barrel off some of your JX still. vs thinking players, i'd barrel off all JX bc of the leveling factor.QJ: probably around 17bb deep i think it's fine. you have a decent read she's 3betting a good amount. when you minraise 17 deep you only need 44.1% equity to call a jam - QJ will have that even vs a tight range, and it's pretty likely we dominate some 3bet bluffing hands she'll have.the key here is just that you think she is 3betting light, and this really is a fantastic hand to mr/call vs a wide 3bettor.Q5: i like flop and turn for the reasons you mentioned. river is probably a fold though imo. you just don't see bluffs much here, and the only hands you repped that he could get to fold on river if he's bluffing just got there with the club. pretty unlikely you see air here.AK: yep, i like it, especially given his full pot lead (no point in making a small raise).K9: again, try to have a feel for his opening % at a givne stack depth. the HUD stat is useful, but only if we take it for what it's worth.vs a 65% opener, if he is mr/calling a 'loose 1' range (on pgm linked below)...we have a +0.24bb exp 3bet jamming vs those ranges. i think it's v likely that flatting has better expectation than that, and we don't run the risk about being wrong about how wide he's actually mr or mr/calling.18bb deep vs that frequency it's not even close.fwiw, if you are going to 3bet jam these K9 QTs type hands (high mid-connected) around 19+ stx...i definitely like a nai-3b with them like we would do w KQ/KJ for basically the same reasons. it's not like we are 3bet shoving and getting KQ/KJ or maybe even a few worse hands to fold anyways. by nai-3b these hands, a lot of villains KQ type stuff will just flat and we will do better against them bc when villain airballs flop we win the pot with a cb. A6: i would fold river readless. don't think you see bluffs often enough. everything else looks good.76: i like your turn check. i wouldn't overdo this kind of spot, but i think this is a particularly good texture/stack depth for it. you aren't worried about giving up free equity, and the stack:pot is such that you can jam river easily still. allow villain to possibly hero-bluff river too, or pick up some wierd sd value he decides to be a station with.you are stacking a Q whether you bet or check. even if villain won't be a station or will never bluff river, if he has any KX in his range it's still sooo worth a check for that small % of time he hits a K and then obv can't fold. K5: i think i have made it clear that i hate your use of the term 'super fish', esp when it comes to labeling regs. maybe his stats haven't been good, but does he actually play and think like a fish? should we be using fish pop tends when estimating his ranges? probably not. he likely thinks like a bad reg, and that's a drastic difference from how we treat a fish.i'd just fold turn, you aren't getting odds to call on that board even vs the small sizing (you only have 10% at best to improve). i doubt if villain bets turn with a hand we beat he actually checks river too. so ya, just fold.
This guy that I just played against has -5% over 5377 games, avg. stake $12, down $5k.Only played a bit over 100 hands against him where he opened 71% of his buttons and also limped and openjammed a few hands, total SB VP$IP 88%. He's very bad post-flop, so I should have a decent edge against him.After having him seen 3x/call 95s for 18bb and mr/call 79o for 23bb and flat an openjam for ~15bb with T4o - how light should I 3bet-jam for value against him ? Is it a good idea to 3bet-jam a ton when between 20-25bb or would I have a better expectation flatting ?i'd just 3bet jam something like the top 35% of hands vs him approx if he's really raise/calling that light at all stack depths. if he's not raise calling quite that light at deeper stacks, i'd still 3bet a wide value range but would nai-3b somet QTo JTs 40-120 to get flatted by some hands that would fold to a jam (i assume he's not raise/folding anything better than those hands anyways)but ya, i wouldn't bother trying to 3b bluff him or anything obv.How about a strategy where I 3bet-jam any Ax, K6o+, K5s+, Q7o+, Q6s+ for about 22-20bb - basically everything that has great expectation against his super light flatting range - and widen that to any Ax, any Kx, most Qx when we get below 15bb. And flat a ton of hands that play well post-flop.And on the button, openjam a ton more hands that play poorly postflop but have great expectation against his trash.How does that sound ?put in what you estimate his raise/calling range to be at a given stack depth into pokerstove. plug in different hands and see what kinds of expectations you get. hands like JTo and J9s etc are likely to be 3bet shoves against him if he's raise calling 76s/97o T4s type stuff a bunch.it's hard to be too perfect about it though. just jam for value a lot and be realistic about when/if he starts adjusting. make sure you don't get blinded by the fact he raise called 97o type stuff a few times when tilted, when in reality he hasn't done it in 10 games. not saying that's the case, but something to consider.
i'll be thinking about your dog. he's very old right? 15 years? what breed is he?brittney says she remembers the picture you showed her of the HUGE boxes of dog food, lol
[98 on QJxss] What if we Donkbet turn and he raises 3x. Fold since he can have some blockers to our hand so were not doing that well? [K4o on J73ss.K.9] Could you explain why it was a good board to 3barell agaisnt regs. Kan see what he would call our river jam with? [Q5 on Q44cc.6.3c] Once he cr and barell that turn which is a bad turn card to barell as a bluff, cant we just fold the turn then? [AK on JT2r] Jam over a pottsize DB? I thought i was a call and fold turn if not improved since we are behind against pair and some of them have blocker to our draw. [K9 on Q33.3.A] On the river, fold since we dont have any Ax in our range 18bb and he can rep it better and at best we might be chopping?
Thanks :-) Yeah, he just turned 15, which is really old for a Dalmatian.And today, he's walking on all his four legs again, I'm so happy about that :-)
Still didn't have any time to get the headset, could do it now - or grind an hour and prepare some questions.
Saw this guy opensit, had an old fish label from July. Just SS'ed him again and he's a recreational player with only 1200 Hypers in total. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBig-BankCash530 BBHero470 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Big-BankCash raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, Big-BankCash goes all-in 470, Hero folds Final Pot: 590 Easy fold here, but then a few hands later:No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBig-BankCash470 BBHero530 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Big-BankCash calls 10, Hero checks Flop (40, 2 players) Hero checks, Big-BankCash bets 40, Hero raises to 100, Big-BankCash calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 100, Big-BankCash calls 100 River (440, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 310, Big-BankCash folds Final Pot: 750 He was very tight at his button, only played 8 out of 20 hands in total, but most of these while we got more shallow, he already openjammed a few buttons in a row prior to this hand. While we were deeper, I've seen him 3x with AK and openfold a lot. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBig-BankCash555 BBHero445 Effective Stacks: 11bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB Big-BankCash goes all-in 555, Hero folds Final Pot: 595
When someone is very tight on his button and he previously 3x'ed - how much do you tighten up if you have a hand that you'd normally gii with readless ? Does it make a difference if he 4x'es ?
I have this guy labeled as weak reg with the note that his bb vpip is too low. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBohlamon48470 BBHero530 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB ohlamon48 raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, ohlamon48 calls 60 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, ohlamon48 checks Turn (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, ohlamon48 folds Final Pot: 300 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBohlamon48350 SBHero650 Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, ohlamon48 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ohlamon48 checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) ohlamon48 checks, Hero bets 40, ohlamon48 raises to 120, Hero goes all-in 610, ohlamon48 goes all-in 190 River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 1000
Which brings up another question:If someone is a reg, but some of his frequencies are wrong - for instance he's only playing 45% of his hands oop or he's folding a ton to small 3bets - is it a good idea to rematch / sit him as long as he doesn't adjust ?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero540 SBillbeacher460 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB illbeacher raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, illbeacher bets 20, Hero calls 20 Turn (120, 2 players) Hero checks, illbeacher bets 20, Hero calls 20 River (160, 2 players) Hero checks, illbeacher bets 40, Hero calls 40 Final Pot: 240 Next hand, immediately after that:No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero420 BBillbeacher580 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, illbeacher calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) illbeacher checks, Hero bets 40, illbeacher calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) illbeacher checks, Hero checks River (160, 2 players) illbeacher bets 40, Hero folds Final Pot: 200 And this is how they exploit themselves:No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero350 BBillbeacher650 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, illbeacher raises to 90, Hero calls 30 Flop (180, 2 players) illbeacher bets 90, Hero goes all-in 260, illbeacher calls 170 Turn (700, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (700, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 700 Hero shows two pair, Queens and Eights illbeacher shows two pair, Jacks and Eights Hero wins 700 ( won +350 ) illbeacher lost -350
... but we have something that we would have jammed over a normal open.This guy was also very bluffy post-flop.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBmAsI4eVa380 BBHero620 Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB mAsI4eVa raises to 150
Limping strategy ?This guy is really weird. His SS is blocked, but on pokeroptimizer.com, he is break-even from December till end of January, then made ~$80k within two weeks, then lost $60k again. 2.6% ROI over 981 games @ $1000, 4.6% ROI over 499 games @ $100, 5% over 406 games at $500.SB VPIP is > 80%, but PFR < 50%, seen him limp for less than 5bb.How much should I attack his limps when we get shallower ? And much tighter should I call his openjams ? I think this Q8 hand was a mistake.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBlynnstrait570 BBHero430 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB lynnstrait calls 15, Hero raises to 100, lynnstrait calls 70 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 90, lynnstrait folds Final Pot: 290 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBlynnstrait390 BBHero610 Effective Stacks: 10bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB lynnstrait goes all-in 390, Hero calls 350 Flop (780, 2 players, 1 all-in) Turn (780, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (780, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 780
@mrbambocha: can you email me the specific post #'s of each hand you are quoting please? not sure how far back to look for a few of them. thanks
K4o: i would only check flop if you think he is the type to stab a lot. if that was your reasoning, i like the c/r - tho honestly i'd just chk/shv flop with 4X + good kicker. a small c/r really doesn't add any value, it actually just gives him an easier chance to get off his hand somehow (i.e., he flats c/r with 45 and flop is a heart and he folds to a bet or something). seriously doubt most players are folding any 4X to a chk/shv..also i think some players will make some ridic calls with 56/67 too. i think you really don't induce much from any worse stuff with a c/r either. kind of a wierd spot bc of his pot sized bet - i would like a smaller c/r if he bet smaller fwiw (stack:pot). maybe i'm being a little nit-picky here, i think you played it ok as played.T9s: looks like a fold to me, esp based on your description. you need 45.5% to call, so estimate his range and see if you have proper equity.TT: i would probably still just chk the turn. you don't get any value, and we don't need to bet to protect equity. he's going to have checked back the flop with a lot of K/QX too. if we get bluffed here it sucks, but with us having 2 T's he doesn't have a lot of his weaker flatting combos in 3b calling range. so going to be a little hard for him to have enough air here imo. also, someone with a low bb vpip prob isn't the time to call 3bets light either, so his range should be pretty tight overall.A7: i just don't think you get called by worse enough when you raise here. i prefer flatting and letting him bluff some rivers or c/c rivers. you rep this card a little too well to raise vs a thinking player, esp at a stack depth where we'd pretty rarely/if ever bluff here. just don't see a lot of value in raising, and protecting equity isn't a good enough reason imo.
the minbetting hands: the J9 i'd just fold the flop, you don't have enough equity to call imo...can see a call if he's checking turns a lot and folding to rivers but thats about it. i like a c/r with this particular hand more than a c/c, tho i like folding most (don't thinkt his type player enjoys folding to a c/r much). other hands look ok to me.just remember that when someone gives you great odds like that, it doesn't mean you have to continue with your entire range. you will have PLENTY of hands in your range that can profitably continue vs these sizings (tho not so much on Q55 board, but that just proves why a 35% pot cbet works just fine on those boards typically).
Which brings up another question:If someone is a reg, but some of his frequencies are wrong - for instance he's only playing 45% of his hands oop or he's folding a ton to small 3bets - is it a good idea to rematch / sit him as long as he doesn't adjust ?approximate your roi vs reg and your roi vs your avg fish. if your roi vs reg is > avg fish, then continue playing the reg. that's the luxury of playing mid stakes and lower. i do think playing regs without a big edge occasionally is important to build skill though.
K8:"... but we have something that we would have jammed over a normal open."this isn't always good enough of a reason to do something obv. we can adjust better than our standard play with specific reads, and that should be our goal. you are relatively readless about his 5x'ing range though here. also, jamming K8o against a minraise 12-13 deep is best bc of fold equity most of the time - against a 5x we don't have any fold equity...so we strictly need to have better equity than 46% to get in here. considerign you know he's pretty spewy, and i seriously doubt most players would 5x really strong hands...i'd prob get it in here. but as you can see, i'm getting it in with a totally diff thought process than i would facing a minraise.
KJ and Q8 hands: i would raise KJ a little smaller against the limp, t100 is a better sizing for hands that don't do so well agianst a limp/calling range (77/AK/bluffs). t80/90 for KQ-T9s type stuff bc it dominates more.Q8 call seems fine.
it was fun working with you again, jack. i hope you feel you got solid value out of the program. please feel free to email me with any follow-up questions to my last few posts. you will have read-only access for ~4 weeks. good luck!
Thanks !This was one of the worst weeks of my entire life - and I learned once more how short life is, you may be prepared for the best, but then fate teaches you a very harsh lesson. When our dog got a stroke last Friday, I thought this is it, that we'd have to say goodbye after fifteen long years. Luckily, god gave us another chance, letting him almost fully recover within just a week, and I am very grateful for that.I slept at my parent's place till yesterday, but this is the first night where I really feel at home - watched TV without looking at the phone every few minutes. * * *I was about to say that this came at about the worst time possible - since I had so many plans for these two weeks - but in hindsight, I still think being part of this FT session was a great experience for me and I would not have wanted to miss it. Yeah, I didn't post even close as many questions that I wanted to - nor did I have any time to look at the other student's threads - but being part of it during this extremely tough time tremendously helped me emotionally.Earlier this week, I was extremely anxious about getting back to the tables, but then decided to play a very short session while only single-tabling and posting any question that I'd come up with. But feeling like I wasn't alone really helped me a lot.Then our skype session - where I was completely unprepared, wasn't even sure whether audio would work because I had no time to get my headset from my place and never used the built-in microphone - and I counted three times in a row where mrbambocha asked almost exactly the same question that I was about to ask - and we didn't talk about any of that prior to the session. Felt so good to realize that another good reg has the same questions than me :-)In the end, everything pretty much turned out well these last two days - I was able to grind several hours today, feeling good about it and not constantly looking at my EV line.It also looks like I may have been wrong about my dad, he really cared about the family a lot these days and I finally started to see his side of the story, how hard it must be for him to work in another city, having to say goodbye every sunday. * * *Looking into the future, I am now fully convinced that playing poker for a living is not what I want to do - at least not at the moment. When things turn really ugly in your life, you do not only realize what's important for you, but also what you're truely capable of doing; speaking in Jared Tendler's terms: what I need to do for my current full-time job has been learned till the level of unconsciousness competence - these few days of me being a complete emotional wreck fully proved that, it was about the only thing that I was still capable of doing.Maybe it's also an issue of confidence: I'm good at analying and writing computer programs and I am absolutely confident about that - "variance" could hit me as hard as it wants, it would really take a lot to convince me that I may not be a good software engineer. But the same is not true for poker.However, I think I should see that as a strength, not as a weakness. Having the luxury of not having to play for a living, I can spend as much time as I need to study, and since I can also choose the times where I play, I can play whenever it's most profitable to do so. I am very confident now that I can have a great future as a part-time player. * * *Looking forward to an exciting March - reading over all these FT posts that I missed, lots of new challenges at work and also the opportunity to meet again with old friends - St. Patrick's Day coming up ...Good luck everybody :-)
adversity is a hell of a teacher. good to see you took a tough situation and made the best of it. glad to hear the job is going so well too. good luck
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