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How to play extreme maniacs

Ok so  I have been playing these certain types of players. From the get go they are raising 6x to 7x the BB pre and even shoving many hands pre. I try to wait it out until I get a good hand, but end up getting blinded down so much I have to flip and lose. How do you play profitably against these players. I have lost 7 out of 10 today, and understand it is variance, but how do you beat these morons. Also all the players that do this I look up and are always negative atleast 1k in HU sngs and appear to have started out playing like this at higher stakes and get crushed. Also this is the $6 dollar hu sng level.

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I actually had some recent

I actually had some recent experience against this situation/type of player.  With blinds at 15/30 he was opening to 550-700 etc.  Although it appears as a dream it can be tough if you are card dead.  I think the best way to counter is trapping - limp rring preflop with big hands (or decent/strong aces, KQ, etc hands).  Also shoving with these hands against their open... If you do get to a flop and connect well it is important to slow play (in my case they were over betting pots by 3x-4x).  You are a little handcuffed by their style, but these things worked well for me.  

In the long run you are bound to pick up a hand in many of the spots, and otherwise you're right - it's variance.  Best of luck.

Brent
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nuckinfuts's picture
 Thanks for the help! After

 Thanks for the help! After I read your post I went on a heater against one of those maniacs winning 3 bi from him haha. All I did was mainly just c/r when I had monsters and he would either shove or come along for the ride.

 

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Nice!  Glad to hear it.

Nice!  Glad to hear it.  Let me know if there's anything else you are looking for :)

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What about low pocket pairs

What about low pocket pairs like 44-66? Most of these guys I've seen will open anywhere for 15x-25x preflop.

For instance...hero dealt 55 in the big blind. Blinds 10/20. Villian raises to 360. Hero? Only reads is that he raises crazy like this every button.

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If he "raises crazy like

If he "raises crazy like this every button" and you think there is fold equity (he won't call everytime) then I it's a definite shove.  Against these type of players you are forced to gamble more than you like to.  I think trapping when you can is the best strategy for sure.

Brent
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Ok what about if there if

Ok what about if there if there's no fold equity. In my experience they will call super wide, sometimes down to 910s and such.

ITRIED2WARNU's picture
I think you'd just have to

I think you'd just have to ask yourself "is there a better spot to get it in"?  If you KNOW for a fact that you are going to get called I think it is a fold with small pairs but this can be pretty dependent on stack sizes as well.  

Brent
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