Hello,i was watching the vid of croix vs hro33 (vid 18) near minute 15:30 i don't understand why he use the line to call/call/fold. on the flop 8c 2c Tc oppo minbet and croix just call,same on the turn and have to fold at river when another clubs comes isn't better raise on the flop for go broke on the turn? I hope other people can understand my terrible english :)
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What did Croix have?
Q To no clubs about 600 chips of croix
I would almost certainly guess that he saw no clear value in building a large pot against this opponent, was getting great odds vs the min bet and felt he could confidently fold when the club hit, and probably value/bluffcatch when it missed.If you look at the size of the pot that he lost, and compare it to when the flush draw does not hit and he value bets or calls a bluff, it may be a clearly profitable play. I'll ask him to clarify when I see him, however.
ty a lot because i play another line.i agree with the c/c on the flop but i'll probably shove or something similar on the turn when blank card comes.if we put all in on the turn oppo ahve just about 30% to win and we take a great pot for our stack
600 chip effective stacks, what were the blinds?It's going to be opponent dependent, but sticking it in on the turn short can often be the best line, you are correct. I'm unaware of his reads on the opponent and the stack sizes, however.
You'd need a good reason to play this slowly with TPGK and 4 to a suit out there, I can think of several though, for instance if your opponent is tight but likes to donk out on the river, so if you bet and you're beat you take down a small pot but you can induce a larger bet on the river when no club, or overcard hits we'll say. As a rule though we do want to protect this hand and raise here, I don't know about getting it all in necessarily, you have to adjust your sizing to what he'd call with worse, I'm sure the dude had a reason for not doing this though.