What do you mean, which stats you should display in your HUD ?Well, I don't like any HUD for HUSNG's. The problem is that your opponent's play just changes too much when effective stacks change, so you never get any decent samplesize unless you're playing someone quite often. In addition to that, HUD stats may also be misleading and make you go on auto-pilot.For instance consider someone's flop cbetting frequency - and for simplicity, let's forget about effective stacks at the moment.To get any decent samplesize for this stat, you normally need to play at least two matches (50 hands each). Now let's assume you have that stat and you start using it.If you rely on your HUD entirely, what do you think how long does it take for you to realize that your opponent drastically changed his cbetting frequency as a reaction to your play ?Or take 3betting as another example. Once your HUD tells you that your opponent is 3betting light - how long does it take for you to realize that he's tightened up since you started to play back at this 3bets ?IMO, the only thing a HUD is really useful for is to show his mucked cards.
I like jacko's post here. It clearly exemplifies the way people misuses HUDs and come to rely too heavily on them.However, it doesn't mean you shouldn't or cannot use a HUD. Just pay careful attention to your opponent, the way you should without a HUD. HUDs can be good especially for multi tablers and very strong players that can really understand the nuances and various stats and how they should and should not be applied.Start by separating stats into BB and SB, adding basic preflop stats (3bet, 4bet, call 3bet, PFR, VPIP) and move on to basic flop stats (donk, cbet, CR flop, call flop). Don't go overboard on turn and river aggression factors and such, call and cbet % should be fine.You can also separate by effective stacks now in HEM I believe, further giving use to a HUD in husngs.** FYI, most higher stakes husng players don't use them, but several successful ones absolutely do and list many positives of doing so. I'm skeptical of anybody that says they are required to use, but also skeptical of anybody that says they are useless.
I am new to correct strategy for HU poker. I have relied on HUDs religiously for the last eight+ years, as I have mass tabled (mostly 16-28 tables) fullring sngs and 6 max cash. Indeed, my poker development has been severely stiffled, but I've earned a fair living in this way.I just started playing HU sngs seriously and I do have a HUD turned on, but I rarely rely on it. When I do, it is to check VPIP, PFR, 3B, or Cbet/Fold to Cbet stats...BUT I also have a handle on his activity level over the course of the tournament.So I might say to myself, "He hasn't been calling cbets quite so much recently as he did earlier in the tournament. I will check his Fold to Cbet% and round it down somewhat."Oh, and donk betting and CR are other useful stats at times.If you play the same opponents over and over again, then notes are far more valuable.Some stats, like Turn and River Cbet stats, take too large of a hand sample to be meaningful. More important are the board textures on which he does this.Sometimes I just like to get an idea of an actual percentage of the time he is taking certain actions.
Your comment about the board textures being more important is precisely where people often fail with their use in HUDs. Very important concept to understand and implement, good job.
I love my HUD :)See http://www.husng.com/content/what-are-your-filters-hud But the comments about the overuse of them are also accurate. How I use mine mostly is in deciding what the players type/personality is and then basing my strategy on that.Hem has some great features that you have to have up. Use it for nothing else to have the # of BB that you and villain have. Saves you from having to do a bunch of division :)
I love my HUD to. I just started using a week ago and i got the set-up from dzikijohnny (thanks man). I just use it as guidance tool, and if it you just use it like that it can be quite useful imo. Of course if you overemphasize the importance of the information it can be very detrimental to your game, but this is not just the case with a HUD but every aspect of poker. and like jackoneill points out you have to be very aware of when the game dynamics change, but this is also the case with or without a HUD.
It's funny about how much resistance there seems to be to huds. Every other poker community lives and dies by them. Of course, they are multi tabling more than us. It is just a great way taking notes. Speaking of huds, I am thinking about buying a new one. http://pokersleuth.com/ It looks they have some great features that I would really like to have. I like the equity calculator. Much more useful than Pokerstove. Interested in how they color stats. And really like the note feature. You know how HEM's hud lets you mark a hand for later review. Looks like here you can type a note that attaches to the hh.
Wow, pokersleuth looks really cool. I looked into another similar program earlier this year for my 6 max multi-tabling, but after some research, found out it was very bulky, laggy, and hard to use.But this looks very intuitive and efficient, especially for HU play and fewer tables.As far as a HUD, another reason I decided to use a HUD is in case I played an opponent previously so I could infer some things about his play more quickly in subsequent matches.
Where it displays the last 3 pots played, who won the pots, and how much they won, you click on the pot you want and a window will pop up with the HH. Then you click the unchecked box to mark the HH. You can also use this window to mark other HHs from the same table as that window is able to select other HHs from the drop down window in it.
What do you mean, which stats you should display in your HUD ?Well, I don't like any HUD for HUSNG's. The problem is that your opponent's play just changes too much when effective stacks change, so you never get any decent samplesize unless you're playing someone quite often. In addition to that, HUD stats may also be misleading and make you go on auto-pilot.For instance consider someone's flop cbetting frequency - and for simplicity, let's forget about effective stacks at the moment.To get any decent samplesize for this stat, you normally need to play at least two matches (50 hands each). Now let's assume you have that stat and you start using it.If you rely on your HUD entirely, what do you think how long does it take for you to realize that your opponent drastically changed his cbetting frequency as a reaction to your play ?Or take 3betting as another example. Once your HUD tells you that your opponent is 3betting light - how long does it take for you to realize that he's tightened up since you started to play back at this 3bets ?IMO, the only thing a HUD is really useful for is to show his mucked cards.
I like jacko's post here. It clearly exemplifies the way people misuses HUDs and come to rely too heavily on them.However, it doesn't mean you shouldn't or cannot use a HUD. Just pay careful attention to your opponent, the way you should without a HUD. HUDs can be good especially for multi tablers and very strong players that can really understand the nuances and various stats and how they should and should not be applied.Start by separating stats into BB and SB, adding basic preflop stats (3bet, 4bet, call 3bet, PFR, VPIP) and move on to basic flop stats (donk, cbet, CR flop, call flop). Don't go overboard on turn and river aggression factors and such, call and cbet % should be fine.You can also separate by effective stacks now in HEM I believe, further giving use to a HUD in husngs.** FYI, most higher stakes husng players don't use them, but several successful ones absolutely do and list many positives of doing so. I'm skeptical of anybody that says they are required to use, but also skeptical of anybody that says they are useless.
I am new to correct strategy for HU poker. I have relied on HUDs religiously for the last eight+ years, as I have mass tabled (mostly 16-28 tables) fullring sngs and 6 max cash. Indeed, my poker development has been severely stiffled, but I've earned a fair living in this way.I just started playing HU sngs seriously and I do have a HUD turned on, but I rarely rely on it. When I do, it is to check VPIP, PFR, 3B, or Cbet/Fold to Cbet stats...BUT I also have a handle on his activity level over the course of the tournament.So I might say to myself, "He hasn't been calling cbets quite so much recently as he did earlier in the tournament. I will check his Fold to Cbet% and round it down somewhat."Oh, and donk betting and CR are other useful stats at times.If you play the same opponents over and over again, then notes are far more valuable.Some stats, like Turn and River Cbet stats, take too large of a hand sample to be meaningful. More important are the board textures on which he does this.Sometimes I just like to get an idea of an actual percentage of the time he is taking certain actions.
Your comment about the board textures being more important is precisely where people often fail with their use in HUDs. Very important concept to understand and implement, good job.
I love my HUD :)See http://www.husng.com/content/what-are-your-filters-hud But the comments about the overuse of them are also accurate. How I use mine mostly is in deciding what the players type/personality is and then basing my strategy on that.Hem has some great features that you have to have up. Use it for nothing else to have the # of BB that you and villain have. Saves you from having to do a bunch of division :)
I love my HUD to. I just started using a week ago and i got the set-up from dzikijohnny (thanks man). I just use it as guidance tool, and if it you just use it like that it can be quite useful imo. Of course if you overemphasize the importance of the information it can be very detrimental to your game, but this is not just the case with a HUD but every aspect of poker. and like jackoneill points out you have to be very aware of when the game dynamics change, but this is also the case with or without a HUD.
It's funny about how much resistance there seems to be to huds. Every other poker community lives and dies by them. Of course, they are multi tabling more than us. It is just a great way taking notes. Speaking of huds, I am thinking about buying a new one. http://pokersleuth.com/ It looks they have some great features that I would really like to have. I like the equity calculator. Much more useful than Pokerstove. Interested in how they color stats. And really like the note feature. You know how HEM's hud lets you mark a hand for later review. Looks like here you can type a note that attaches to the hh.
Wow, pokersleuth looks really cool. I looked into another similar program earlier this year for my 6 max multi-tabling, but after some research, found out it was very bulky, laggy, and hard to use.But this looks very intuitive and efficient, especially for HU play and fewer tables.As far as a HUD, another reason I decided to use a HUD is in case I played an opponent previously so I could infer some things about his play more quickly in subsequent matches.
As soon as they add # of bb to the hud I think I will go ahead and get it. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/167/commercial-software/poker-sleuth-2-0-hud-free-calculator-more-368151/index19.html
"You know how HEM's hud lets you mark a hand for later review." How do you do this??
Where it displays the last 3 pots played, who won the pots, and how much they won, you click on the pot you want and a window will pop up with the HH. Then you click the unchecked box to mark the HH. You can also use this window to mark other HHs from the same table as that window is able to select other HHs from the drop down window in it.