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andretti's picture
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Hey guys,I'm struggling with one villain who makes me frustrating...His preflop range on the blind is like 70% of hands. Generally if he plays on the big he either donks or folds almost always. To be precise he leads out 35% of the time and folds to cbet almost 80. Amost never ch-raises or calls.From one point I can open 100% of my hands and cbet him to death.. and often cant resist the temptation:)But the problem is that whenever he plays postflop in raised pot he steals initiative and my EV generally comes from the fold equity only in a raised pot.From another point my range is a lot weaker than his.  I suppose tightening up preflop range is a perfect approach in order to be ahead of his BB range and combat him postflop.But I am interested in your thoughts, my first post here though:)In regards to board structure/bet-sizing etc..Bet sizing can be different.. if it is dry board it can be like full pot and half and two thirds.. It seems that to me that it doesnt have any hand strength tells( have a good bunch of hands with him.. almost 1K). On a wet board it is naturally a full pot sized bet.If he has TP+ he plays donk-3bet, in other cases he calls which probably makes his range weak and faceup. However there are rare exceptions e.g. if he got K2o and have a TP on the flop he can call it down. Almost always he is happy to get his stack in with TP. If an over comes on the turns he usually shuts down, in other cases his line looks like "donk-donk-donk".Generally I perceive him not getting out of line with bluffs on the later streets. After tightening up my flop "raise/call" range he added some gutshots to his lead range also, and even A-high on a paired boards.Dunno if I made post in the right place..   

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he leads out 35% of the time

he leads out 35% of the time and folds to cbet almost 80.  You will pair at least one of your unpaired hole cards on the flop: 2.1 to 1 (32.4%) From one point I can open 100% of my hands and cbet him to death.. and often cant resist the temptation:) So the guy have some huge leek , probably donk whit some draw to ... so just fold you last pair anytime and use you position power to put some aggression when he call or raise few donk whit some nice combo draw / 2 over / 1 over + gutshot ... 

andretti's picture
Yep.. I know the

Yep.. I know the numbers.This guy has another leak too.. but thats not the point of my message. It seems to me that he is a big leak himself.Actually Im doing what you said and still having some ...difficulties with him

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"From another point my range

"From another point my range is a lot weaker than his.  I suppose tightening up preflop range is a perfect approach in order to be ahead of his BB range and combat him postflop."I dislike this.  If he's as weak as you say when he checks (folding to cbets 80% of the time), it's very unlikely that tightening your opening range is better than continuing to raise a wide range and cbet pretty much every time he checks.As for his donk bets, if they are likely strong (or at least pairs + draws) just raise the top of your range for value and use your positional advantage to reach showdown, calling a bit looser if you see that he's mixing in some bluffs (which is tough to say).A huge piece of the puzzle is figuring out what sort of pattern, if any (there almost always is a very exploitable pattern) he is using on his donk leads + check and call/raise actions.  It's still possible that he literally almost never bluffs, but often times these types of opponents do bluff, and bluff in a very transparent way (either bet sizing or board texture is very predictable for bluffs usually).One thing to watch out for is donk leads on low card boards.  70% is wide, but a lot of lower cards he'll hit a lower % of the time, so on more dry, low card boards, if his donk frequency is medium to high, it could be a sign of him bluffing those boards too much (meaning you'd call a bit lighter with some hands and bluff more often overall).It can be a huge advantage to play these guys over and over.  Even if you're theoretically below 50% winrate against him in the first few games, if you can identify some of the stuff I talk about above, there's an extremely large edge to be had.  Keep your focus and discipline.

andretti's picture
By tightening up I meant

By tightening up I meant opening 70-75% of hands instead of 100:). And it actually did a good job. i played with villain a decent amount of matches after that.. and Im happy to play him over and over again))Thanks for the advice.