Hi, this is George. I have joined fasttrack last year and learned a lot from this forum & coachings from Greg and mers.I am currently playing 100s hypers on stars. I will try my best to improve in the next 2 weeks along with other fellow fasttrackers.My skype is georgelongyun. Feel free to add me there.
25bb, against someone who opens 80% at SB, rarely fold to nonallin 3bet and is very active in 3bet pot, cb 80%+, 2 br 70%, how to adjust both in preflop and postflop? What is your 3bet range here and what boards are you willing to c/r bluff on flop?Against someone flat my minraise wide 60%, c/r flop wide like 40%, what's your default play with MP and BP on dry flop like Q73? Do you prefer check back MP or cbet-call or cbet-shove line?
I feel like my check/call, turn check/raise line is too value heavy and is thinking about adding more semi-bluff into it. When and what kind of oppenents are good to take c/c c/r line with OESD and flush draws?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBMc.Pokerist440 SBHero560 Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Mc.Pokerist calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Mc.Pokerist checks, Hero bets 40, Mc.Pokerist raises to 80, Hero calls 40 Turn (240, 2 players) Mc.Pokerist bets 120, ??Here is an example to deal with flop c/r. He defends wide and c/r flop 3 out of 9 times. With this c/r sizing, what do u think his range is? I doubt he can do this with Qx. I called with good pot odds and decent equity. What's your play here on flop and turn?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBtitón480 SBHero520 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, titón calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) titón checks, Hero bets 40, titón calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) titón checks, Hero checks River (160, 2 players) titón bets 80, Hero??Kind of readless. What do u think of the pop tendencies of c/c on paired flop? Mostly 2 over cards float with very few combos of 9x? I would expect 4x to c/r on flop. Will u barrell this turn? Should I call this river? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero490 BBodbodc510 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, odbodc calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) odbodc bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) odbodc bets 60, Hero calls 60 River (280, 2 players) odbodc bets 180, Hero folds Final Pot: 460 odbodc wins 460 ( won +140 ) Hero lost -140Is this a easy fold to you?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero460 SBfriedboss540 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB friedboss raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, friedboss checks Turn (80, 2 players) Hero bets 40, friedboss calls 40 River (160, 2 players) Hero checks, friedboss bets 100, Hero folds Final Pot: 260 friedboss wins 260 ( won +80 ) Hero lost -80He only cbet 1 out of 3. The only cbet i saw was on a Ace high flop. I expect him to check back Ax, Kx, good draw like KQ, Q9 flush draws and air on flop. After he calls my turn donk, I can eliminate most air and expect more draws. When he bet the river Kh, I think he is likely to hit TP K, or hit the draws and his bet is mostly for value. So I lean to fold. Is my thinking process here ok?
hey george! glad you decided to do another program.as you can see in some of the other personal threads, i was super busy today! your thread will be top priority first thing for me tomorrow. will def get running smoother after we get 2-3 days into the program, i'm just getting hit w a bunch of questions at once atm (expected). so ya, will get on this asap! thanks
No problem at all. Just take your time. I will keep asking questions:)
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBPIayItSmart440 BBHero560 Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB PIayItSmart raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, PIayItSmart bets 35, Hero calls 35 Turn (150, 2 players) Hero checks, PIayItSmart checks River (150, 2 players) Hero checks, PIayItSmart bets 220, Hero calls 220 Final Pot: 590 PIayItSmart shows three of a kind, Sevens Hero shows PIayItSmart wins 590 ( won +295 ) Hero lost -295 PIayItSmart is a winning reg with a 4% roi in 8000+ games ave stake $270. This is our first game, so I'm kind of readless. What will u do with this hand? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero490 SBPIayItSmart510 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB PIayItSmart raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, PIayItSmart bets 35, Hero calls 35 Turn (150, 2 players) Hero checks, PIayItSmart checks River (150, 2 players) Hero checks, PIayItSmart bets 120, Hero?? This one is about game flow. Will the 1st hand history change any of my decisions in this one?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmolik44460 SBHero540 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, molik44 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) molik44 checks, Hero bets 30, molik44 calls 30 Turn (140, 2 players) molik44 checks, Hero checks River (140, 2 players) molik44 bets 105, Hero calls 105 Final Pot: 350 molik44 shows three of a kind, Fives Hero shows molik44 wins 350 ( won +175 ) Hero lost -175 I have played many games with molik. From what I learn about him, he plays very straightforward. His flop c/c range including TP MP BP, FD, gutshot and good equity float like KQ on A44hh flop, almost no air. So I expect him to have Tx and 5x or K high float on flop most of the time. Generally he is not bluffy at all. When he donks river especially a Ace river, really only 5x makes sense to me. But as that's such a narrow range, will u hero fold this one? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero360 SBpuchy255640 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB puchy255 calls 15, Hero checks Flop (60, 2 players) Hero checks, puchy255 bets 30, Hero goes all-in 330, puchy255 folds Final Pot: 420 Hero wins 420 ( won +60 ) puchy255 lost -60He limps 50%ish. I expect him to have mostly weak mid cards as he fold to my raise limp 4 out of 5 times.(called once with A2o, which is the only showdown hand in his limp hands). With my hands like this, what's my best play here? Is c/r to 90ish better than c/shove here?
hey george. i'm excited to be working with you again!25bb, against someone who opens 80% at SB, rarely fold to nonallin 3bet and is very active in 3bet pot, cb 80%+, 2 br 70%, how to adjust both in preflop and postflop? What is your 3bet range here and what boards are you willing to c/r bluff on flop?opening 80% 25bb deep, we should be 3bet shoving an extremely wide range in most cases. i think it's fair to assume that a player that is this aggro in all other situations, will be the type to mr/call pretty wide, so let's give him a mr/calling range of: A2s+ A6o+, K9s+, QTs+, QJo, any pair. against this opening frequency and mr/calling freq jamming atc is better than folding! for example, 72o has -0.89bb exp. that doesn't mean we should simply be 3bet shoving all hands bc we still need to compare to the expectation of flatting. i think a lot of the mid-connected hands will still have a better expectation flatting. instead of just taking KQ and KJ like normal and nai-3b+calling them (3bet from t40 to t120), i think adding a little wider range of KTs K9s KTo QJs QTs JTs - those hands should probably have better expectation as 3bets than flats, but still better expectation as nai-3b's than 3bet shoves - mainly bc he is calling nai-3bs so wide, and he won't mr/call worse hands if we jam a ton too. thoughts?as for postflop play when we flat vs this opponent: just keep in mind that his barreling frequency is very high (along with his pfr %), so that means he has A LOT of weak hands in his overall range. this DOES NOT mean we should start slow playing the top of our range typically (hands that have great value as c/r), but rather we should just start calling off with the rest of our range that has sd value a lot lighter than we typically would. basically, i would need to know that villain is spewing SOOO much for me to justify flatting a cbet with JTo on JT8, or 97 on 865 etc - still just soo much value in a c/r...if he is calling nai-3b so wide and just aggro/stationy in general, you really need to just play your hands aggro post still and maximize value. it doesn't sound to me like this type player is one that we should be c/r bluffing much on flops, as he doesnt seem too willing to fold. if you start to think it's ok to, i would just start doing it with really strong backdoor hands - like J9cc on a Qc 7 3 flop or something like that.Against someone flat my minraise wide 60%, c/r flop wide like 40%, what's your default play with MP and BP on dry flop like Q73? Do you prefer check back MP or cbet-call or cbet-shove line?remember that it's important to not just look at a HUD stat. a 40% c/r % doesn't mean that he c/r all board textures 40% of the time typically - it's just an average of all situations. so it's important to keep that in mind on a board like Q73!i would polarize my cbet range, checking back weak bottom pair, 44/55/22, 3X, A high, and good K high. if you find you are getting c/r'd a huge amount on this particular board, i would just bet/call or bet/jam the 7X depending on his c/r sizing.
I feel like my check/call, turn check/raise line is too value heavy and is thinking about adding more semi-bluff into it. When and what kind of oppenents are good to take c/c c/r line with OESD and flush draws?an opponent who is barreling turns with a wide range (including lots of bluffs). why are you worried about it though? do you feel like your opponents are exploiting you here? i think that's unlikely.but ya, if you are getting barreled a lot, taking some strong equity draws with no sd value and check/shoving turn can be fine.
JT: seems like spew to me. 3 out of 9 c/r's, with no significant showdown info, is not enough information for us to start floating c/r with backdoor draws assumign we can just call off on any J/T turn or something like that, or continue w backdoor equity - seems like a stretch to me!i don't know what his range is, hard to say. i would just fold, be skeptical of his c/r frequency, start polarizing my cbet range so that i can continue vs his c/r more often (JT would still be a cbet usually), and then adapt more as i pick up more info. we can't read souls with such marginal information as this imo.J3: i don't think the pop tend of an unknown is to c/r 4X all the time. i def put some 4X, slowplaying 9X and A/K/Q and some other high card floats in range - i would probably like barreling off on some overcard to the 4, but this turn is a little too much of a blank and i think a lot of his c/c range on flop will continue too much + we have almost no equity. i'd just give up. i'm having a hard time coming up with a ton of possible bluffs in his range on river. we need to be right 25%, but we'd need him turning some K/Q high type hands into a bluff, and i think they will just be checking down with sd value a lot of the time probably. i would fold, but i think it's close.77: meh, it sucks that the flush hit on the river, but we only need to be right 30% of the time. i think the avg player randomly donkbets air/weird hands you wouldn't expect often enough for this to be a call. i feel like i see a bunch of random garbage in this spotKT: i would just c/f river. he is a good enough thinking player to know that your range is basically KX, QJ/QT/JT - and he doesn't need to bet so big to get the missed draws to fold if he has worse. i think this is a valuebet a huge % of the time, though i don't think he will be betting in this spot often - its just going to be random 7X or some other value he decided to play weird.A3: ya again, i don't think this is a line taken as a bluff very often without a unique dynamic by most regs (bet/call/bet). i'd expect to see way too much value here.i would 3bet shove pre though, he's a good thinking player and i think its very likely he's opening something like 70%+. A3o has +0.9bb exp if his mr/calling range is standard-ish.i also think flop is a c/f, even with the Ah. it's a board texture most regs dont cbet that wide bc it hits your flatting range hard - while you will have the best hand on flop some, i thikn you get barreled off way too often...going to be real hard for you to get to sd. AJ: ya, i'd need some pretty great reads to fold river. also, if you think he is flatting any of his AX combos oop, i think that will be enough reason for you to call this river. from your reads, and in general, i don't expect K high to be turning into a bluff here. so ya, i think it's close actually. much easier spot if you know he c/r all his 5X on flop!
Nice post in the Adjusting your SB VPIP/PFR vs different OOP frequencies. What about the adjustment for different frequencies in flop? such as flat cb 30 c/r 20, or 60/10, 10/40. I know that also depends on lots of other factors such as preflop vpip, different flat cb range, frequencies when facing barrelling, etc. But can you help me to try your best to expand a little bit here?
Thank you for you hand reviews. Could you help me to take a look at the missing hands 7T in #5 and 43s in #9?
Wow so many times I here you saying that we need to fold, im like george, thinking they bluff to often so Im calling..Maybe need to hit that fold button more often. I find the AJ hand intresting. I think its 5x alot of the time, a 5x that wants to cr turn or cr river if he knows your a reg that might 3barell. When he DB that river it really looks like he is hoping for a call. Cant see many valuehands play that way and not many bluffs either since you rep the Ax better then him.
T7 and 43: i like how you played both. if you want an explanation of anything in particular let me know.will get to your other question about postflop frequencies tomorrow!
About that 77 hand, how about jamming the turn after the Jack paired and there's another flush-draw ? It's now a little bit less likely for him to have a Jack, 6x is never folding and he could also bet/call one of these flush-draws here.I'm usually jamming in spots like this, thinking I have good enough equity against his calling range and also don't want a tough decision otr because there are soo many overcards to our hand.
About that 77 hand, how about jamming the turn after the Jack paired and there's another flush-draw ? It's now a little bit less likely for him to have a Jack, 6x is never folding and he could also bet/call one of these flush-draws here.2 problems:1- stacks really aren't that short...not really a stack depth where it's necessary to jam. pot before we call is t220 and a jam leaves t350 behind for villain to call. so villain needs 350/980 (~37%) to call jam - flush draws aren't getting the right odds...that doesn't mean i think all players actually fold a flush draw tho bc obv people are stations, but the big problem is...2- jamming folds out bluffs, and we are definitely still at a stack depth where if we flat villain has a decent stack depth to fire another barrel. i mean pot will only be t280 with t350 behind - a great board to barrel. we can easily fold club rivers to most sizes (not a good river for villain to bluff anyways, most wont), and having kept bluffs in range we maximize our value there too. if villain does have 6X, we'll get another street of value on river in some way (except for club rivers, but that will go chk/chk a lot).so i like jamming turn at shorter stacks, basically at a point where i think the pop tend is to not fire a 3rd barrel as a bluff (or not have a whole lot of bluffs in turn bluffing range). that's usually when river pot size is a good amt greater than remaining eff stx (i.e, pot of 300 remaining eff stx 160). there isn't any additional value in flatting if bluffs aren't continuing, so flatting just allows villain to realize free equity - so i'd be a lot more likely to just jam turn there.
Wow, what a great explanation that can be applied to so many more similar spots. Def going into the doc.
hey george. thanks for participating in another program. i hope you feel you got some solid value from it. you weren't very active in your personal thread, so i'm hoping you are going to spend a lot of time reading over the next 4 weeks or so. since i didn't have to spend much time in your personal thread, please feel free to ask me a few more questions via email at gtillerhokie@gmail.com.good luck