No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
$1.40+$0.10
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter
| SB | Hero | 2180 | |
| BB | a.r.s.e.n310 | 820 |
Effective Stacks: 10bb
Blinds 40/80
Pre-Flop (120, 2 players)
Hero is SB
Hero goes all-in 2180, a.r.s.e.n310 goes all-in 740
Flop (1640, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn (1640, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River (1640, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: 1640
Hero shows a full house, Jacks full of Threes
a.r.s.e.n310 shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
Hero wins 3000 ( won +820 )
a.r.s.e.n310 lost -820
should i shove KJo with 10bb?
miniraise-fold or push?which option is better?
now i think miniraise-fold is better than jam,because he often fold facing my miniraise,so if his hand is not good,whether miniraise or push，he also fold，so，miniraise can save my chips
if his hand is monster，he pushed ，i will miniraise fold
villain‘s stats：49/35/16.0/14.0/95(VPIP/PFR/3B/AF/HANDS)
my reads on villain:at the late game,when his stacks is short,he played very
conservative。facing my miniraise，he never resteal or push
if my hand is A4o,which action is better?
1. KJo @ 10BB => raise-call
- If he has a flatting range this short it is with hands that you often dominate that would otherwise fold to a shove (so you do even better vs his flatting range)
- You have too strong a hand to raise-fold (if this isn't clear let me know and I can post the math)
2. A4o @ 10BB => open jam
- You're never folding Ax @ 10BB
- The range he would flat with (or an induced 3b range) has great equity vs you so your fold equity vs these ranges is worth more than your pot equity (basically you don't gain any expectation by letting these hands take a non-fold action so ship it in and happily take your fold equity vs those holdings)
thanks for your help
my english is not good,so i am not sure i can entirely understand your words
1.KJo
miniraising is better than shove,because shove cant get value from his flatting range,but miniraising can get value,isn't it?
2.A4o
you said :"basically you don't gain any expectation by letting these hands take a non-fold action so ship it in“
i cant understand this sentence，what does "ship it in "mean??
1. Think about it like this:
- @ 10BB villain will have an inelastic (not price sensitive - getting all in regardless of what you do) range and he will have an elastic (sensitive to your action and the price you lay) range.
- WE SHOULDN'T CARE ABOUT THE INELASTIC RANGE because we are getting all in vs this range regardless of what we do and there is no marginal edge to find here.
- So the question becomes, how do we maximise our expectation vs the ELASTIC part of villain's range?
For example, if you open jam, villain will probably call with something like an inelastic range of:[A,KK-22,KQ]
Most players will also jam over a min raise figuring they were calling a shove anyway.
So your expectation is no different whether you open jam or min-raise call.
But what if villain holds something like K5o? (+ all the other hands in the ELASTIC component of villain's range?)
Some players will call a jam here, some will fold.
If you min raise, more will call, more will 3b jam.
A lot of the hands in villain's inelastic calling range / expanded 3b jamming range @ 10BB are dominated by KJo.
So you gain some expectation by raise-calling instead of open jamming.
Obviously this is opponent dependent but framing your decision thinking within a more at-the-margin thinking space can yield marginal expectation in these low effective stack problems.
2. Ship it in = [open jam, move all in preflop, shove]