Hi All,
Is it ok to shove here ?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
$14.69+$0.31
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter
| SB | Hero | 500 | |
| BB | tomic91 | 500 |
Effective Stacks: 25bb
Blinds 10/20
Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is SB
Hero raises to 40, tomic91 calls 20
Flop (80, 2 players)
tomic91 checks, Hero bets 40, tomic91 raises to 85, Hero goes all-in 460, tomic91 goes all-in 375
Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: 1000
Hero shows two pair, Sixes and Fives
tomic91 shows a straight, Deuce to Six
tomic91 wins 1000 ( won +500 )
Hero lost -500
yes perfectly fine
any explaination why ?
fyi, i am new and still learning.
We flop top pair + OESD in single raised pot @ 25BB on 543 tt board.
Villain's typical c/r range here will be
=> small value range = 5x, 76, sometimes 54s, sometimes [AA, KK] if he slow plays those pre
=> large bluff / semi-bluff range = FDs, SDs, overcards
Note that most of villain's c/r bluffing range has decent equity vs us in the form of overcards & draws.
Which we are either happy to fold out or get in vs if he c/r NAI and calls a jam.
When we jam over his c/r NAI, he is layed 375 / 1000 = 37.5% pot odds to put the rest of his stack in.
With the range he has, he would be making a mistake by folding many hands in his range and so we will often be getting in as a 60/40 favourite vs his range.
Or folding out his ~40% equity which we don't mind.
Noteworthy that villain flats A2o @ 25BB and c/r tiny with flopped 2nd nuts.
But pretty standard jam over I think.
You are ahead of flush draws and hands like 6x, 46, 36 etc that bad players at these levels c/r and call shoves with, our hand is vulnerbale though so best to just shove now and get max value from hands we are ahead of and capture our fold equity vs hands that have equity share vs us that are just c/r air on the flop but still have 6 outs / 2 overcards vs us. If we are behind we have decent equity with top pair and a open ended straight draw.
Hi cdon and aaronwilson,
Thanks so much for the detailed breakdown and analysis. It helps me a lot.
One of my concerns is the re-raise bet size of 85. It just felt too suspicious. It feels like begging me to shove him back.
Now that i get the affirmation from your explanation i am more at ease.
Regards,
Must have posted at the same time as Arron.
Happy to see our reasoning is similar.
The sizing of 85 could be a bet sizing tell from villain if he's not balancing it with some junky stuff that wants to contest then fold to further aggression.
Make a note of it and keep an eye on the frequency with which he makes these sort of small reraises to guage whether he's doing it with a pure value range or whether he also has bluffs / semibluffs in his range.
- c/r NAI
- 3b NAI
He turned up with such a narrow part of his range that you can't be too worried about the way it it turned out.
I think you're making G Bucks in this spot :)
http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy/mathematics/g-bucks/
Hi Cdon,
Thanks for introducing the G buck info. It helped me widen my understanding now. And i do see that a lot of your analysis is based on our hands vs a range of hands ( essentially how G bucks is all about).
Good point also that i need to take note of what his min reraises mean. This is something that i have not been actively doing i believe.
My poker awareness is not acute at all.
Thanks again.
Regards,