I don't have enough data on the $7 population to analyze this spot. Could someone who has please help me to figure out if this is a call or fold? This is the first hand of the match and i have no history with the opponent. Should I even be 3betting this readless? Is my 3bet size ok?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
$6.85+$0.15
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter
| BB | Hero | 500 | |
| SB | FAT3333 | 500 |
Effective Stacks: 25bb
Blinds 10/20
Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is BB
FAT3333 raises to 40, Hero raises to 90, FAT3333 goes all-in 500, Hero?
Final Pot: 180
FAT3333 wins 590 ( won +90 )
Hero lost -90
Call
Once u 3bet to t90 and villian shoves for 500 you need 41% equity to call ( 410 / 1000 = 0.41 )
How your equity does vs some of his 4bet shoving range
vs AJ you have 43.9%, vs 10s you have 46.2%, vs 7s you have 48%
Sometimes your going be be in bad shape with 3 outs but against the majority of his 4bet shove range after 3betting I would call. Theres more combinations of hands you have 41% equity or more vs than combinations of AA, KK, AK, AQ
how many hands would you need to have the desired volume of games to analyse this?
I have 1300 games in my db is that enough? If so how would i go about finding the answer to question you posted, thanks
I think that over 1k tourneys if enough for my needs easily :) so if you could check your db and come back with an answer maybe post ICMIZER screenshots also if possible :) thx in advance :)
I think u just need to check the populations openahoving, minraising and 4betting values around 20-25bb deep
I doubt 1k game sample will yield statistically relevant insights into population 4b jamming ranges.
Each data point requires:
- At effective stack S
- Your opponent held a hand in his raising range
AND
- You had a hand in your 3b NAI
AND
- Your villain had a hand in his 4b jam over your 3b NAI range
AND
- You had a hand in your 3b NAI and call a 4b jam range
^^ This doesn't happen very frequently. So even over a 1k game sample you won't have much of a sample.
As Arron points out, once you 3b to 90, you only need 41% equity to call a jam.
Even vs a tight value oriented 4b jamming range like [AK-A8, AA-22], you have the equity to call w KQs (41.84% > 41.0 %).
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=he&h1=KxQx&h2=AK-A8%2C+AA-22&s=generic
The main benefit of 3b NAI over 3b jamming with a hand like KxQx is you give villain a chance to continue (flat mostly) with his Kx and Qx which you have dominated. Against his 4b jamming value range you are a dog, but calling has better expectation than folding when facing a 4b jam at this stack depth net of the dead money already in the pot.
Have a play with some villain ranges to see how tight he needs to be playing that you would 3b NAI and fold to a jam ?
Additionally, think about what sort of villain tendencies would make 3b NAI better than 3b jamming ?
Or which preflop + postflop tendencies would make calling better ?
These are the things you should be thinking about to design ranges / strategies which maximally exploit your opponents.
I know how to get population 4bet, minraise etc % at 25bb deep, but do you know if I can use pokertracker 4 to get a hand range chart of all hands villains have 4betJammed over my NAI 3ber against me 25bb deep.