Against a passive opponent with fold to cbet 67% in a short sample.
To me it looked like a blocking bet, I dont know if I can fold...
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8774592_E9C8DAB8AD
Against a passive opponent with fold to cbet 67% in a short sample.
To me it looked like a blocking bet, I dont know if I can fold...
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/8774592_E9C8DAB8AD
i think you can check back the turn and bluff catch the river. or bet the river again if checked to. you underrepped your hand and often will get value from worse that way. if there are 3 streets of betting with your hand, you mostly will turn out to be the loser. a worse 7 will not pay a third bet usually, neither a 2, so you´ll have to check back the river anyway, except you improve to trips or hit your K. but i also understand you want to get value from FDs. it´s player dependent, i guess. if you feel, he exhibits calling station behaviour and will call again with a bad FD, a bet is good. if he is the guy who will bluff the river or bluffcatch with worse, once you check the turn, a check is good.
his bet OTR is very strange. it´s hard to fold to that, you get better than 4:1. but then, a passive player won´t turn a bricked FD into a bluff like that. to me it rather looks like he is afraid you´ll check back the river. a lot of his range he will call you with twice has you beat. like 76, 89, J7, J9, J8, JT, Jc6c, Jc2c, T6, maybe even 6c2c, pretty much the only hands you beat are hands like Q7, 97, 87, or combo draws like 8c6c and it´s questionable whether he will turn these into a bluff, because he will have to bet fold, which is nonsensical given he will only have 130 chips left. i think we can safely assume he will call a jam, so you might as well treat his bet like a jam and i don´t think one can call a jam with 3rd pair on that board. although you are getting incredible odds, i think you´ll have to fold. your hand is just a bluffcatcher and i don´t think he has too many worse hands in his range OTR.
cheers
s.
Hi there AGT89
I think we need more information to make this decision. If villain is competant, I think we can fold, since we can only really beat missed clubs, if he played the hand correctly. If villain is a weak player, it's harder to put him on a hand. Many weak opponents could play this way with all sorts of nonsense hands. This was in fact the case (our opponent called two bets with a gutshot and got a lucky river). In this case, I think we have to play our hand strength, and call the river underbet.
Readless, I think call or fold is fine. But this is where Sharkscope could really help you out.
Hey guys, thanks for your answers, I really aprecciate it.
About checking the turn, I dont think this is a good checking spot as deafult. The only hand that improves is the 89, and at the same time the 6 gives a lot of extra equity in terms of gutshots to a lot of middling hands that can call the flop, like 69, 68, 78, 79, any flush draw with an 8 or a 9 on the hand. Overall I think they are a lot of combos to make interesting a bet on the turn for value.
To check behing I prefer some higher boards (where overcards almost can't hit) or dryer boards (where you have your hand more locked)
edit: I understund the 2 streets of value reasoning, but as I said I dont think this is a board where I want to give a free card just to try to go to the showdown. And also having K kicker I was planing a third barrel for value on a lot of rivers (a small one obv)
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against that opponent a bet was good, i just wanted to give an alternative that can be considered against another type of opponent.
but when you bet, what will you do if raised? do you call a jam with K7 on that board? what do you think is his range for a check raise OTT? i guess he´ll often have sth like 6cXc here, some two pair hands like 67, 6c2c, 98 that wants to get it in before another scarecard arrives, 66 is also possible against a passive player.
cheers
s.
Well Im just bet/folding obviously. I think the range you wrotte it's too wide for a mediocre player, not to mention if he is a passive player. You wrotte a pretty good range to consider check-pushing against a regular, also it's the range you expect a regular is gonna do against you. But I dont see many bad players getting that agressive on the turn because "there is only one card left".
By betting the turn with my hole value range I can get in troubles if someone knows Im barreling that wide, but I dont think Im getting exploit, on this level I make money just value betting thin xD
But I agree, against another type of opponent it's a good spot to check bh, and I understund your reasoning and I agree !
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