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andre3k's picture
Can i fold this flop

Can I fold this flop vs a check of this size?

This guys has played 1ks and his recent history shows he plays 200s.

He has check raised 2-3 flops so far and I used this smaller size to induce a light check raise.

I don't expect his pair+ straight draws to check raise to this size. I expect all his flush draws, open ended straights and pairs to check shove but this line is interesting, If he's check raising 2 pair, straights and flush draws (for which i have no blockers) can I bet fold this flop?

 

 

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players • PokerStars
$6.85+$0.15

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BB player1 435  
SB hero 565  

Effective Stacks: 15bb

Blinds 15/30

Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)

Hero is SB

sJcJ

hero raises to 60, player1 calls 30

Flop (120, 2 players)

d8d5s7

player1 checks, hero bets 45, player1 raises to 120, hero goes all-in 505, player1 goes all-in 255

Turn (870, 2 players, 2 all-in)

c8

River (870, 2 players, 2 all-in)

d4

Final Pot: 870

player1 shows a flush, Jack high

dJd9

hero shows two pair, Jacks and Eights

sJcJ

player1 wins 870 ( won +435 )

hero lost -435

cdon3822's picture
As you correctly point out

As you correctly point out some players will shove their draws and only raise NAI here with made hands conditionally strengthening their NAI c/r range.

That said, lots of players will play 8x the same way which we crush and there are way more combos of than 2 pairs & straights.

Additionally he can play draws like this some non zero percentage and also bluff this way too because this board is pretty much a perceived OOP defending range's wet dream.

On such a dynamic board, it's quite valuable to fold out villain's equity & we are only 15bb deep so it's not like we are giving up a huge amount of expectation vs the top of his get it in range when we are behind. I would have played it the same way.

andre3k's picture
Thank you very much for the

Thank you very much for the analysis. 

Bauce.