he guys ive already had a couple of tilters who repetedly go all in every hand and are willing to play me over and over again i thought this is good for me HOWEVER i dont seem to be able to make a profit against these guys because till i find a hand to call them of with i will be blinded off quite a bit i know some people are thinking your range has to be much loser and yes your completely right but in the end il be flipping 60% 40% most of the time and when i finaly get a decent Pocket pair and double up he will still have enough chips and continues shoving and if playing these guys is profitable i can imagine the variance with playing these player will be huge? thx for insight and tips am really curious how you guys see it :)
oh and im talking about hyper turbo format on pokerstars
Likely you are not calling wide enough if your villain is indeed shoving ATC. If you call only with strong Ax and pocket pairs villain is actually profitable with most of his shoving range versus you.
Using ICMIZER you can calculate the hands that will be better called than folded to such a shoving range 25bb deep and get the following range:
(55.4%) 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q3o+,J3s+,J7o+,T6s+,T8o+,97s+,98o
Even if we exclude the hands that are 1bb better called than folded so that we pass up some of our edge because we are assuming villain will continue to shove ATC--a very profitable for us--gives a fairly wide range of:
(49.3%) 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q5o+,J6s+,J8o+,T7s+,T9o,98s
Shallower you can call even wider.
Good luck :)
how do u find calling range with ICMIZER?
il 1 keturtles
just give your opponent a pushing range and set a stackdepth. Use any single hand you want as your hand and than calculate. ICMIZER will show you the result for your chosen hand but wil also show you the results for all the other hands. You will see for the first try, cant make a mistake I think.
coffee thx for detailed explanation :)however playing this opponent again and again has to be a huge variance rollercoaster would you like to play a opponent who shoves every hand even if you know you can easily go many more bi down because of the variance that his play style produces? would you guys play an all in each hand opponent repetedly i mean am i not better of playing other opponents where i can win hands without showdown and actually exploit them? thx for insight :)
Going all in every hand is incredibly profitable for us and incredi bly exploitable. if if exploit it properly we end up with a massive edge. This means our win rate will be higher than almost every other kind of player, leading to less variance of our bankroll (despite a lot of in game variance). So yeah as long as you are looking for profit you should want to play players like this as much as possible--they are great for your hourly and roi. you will lose multiple buyins to everyone sometimes, and you are much more likely to do so versus people who are actually playing poker.