"I'm here because a lot of the young guys who are at the top of poker in the UK seem to have achieved their knowledge of networking and continual analysis of their game, hands and general theory...and for all the benefits of 2+2 I think there's a lack of actual strategy topic in the HUsng section of the forum."Completely agree. Welcome!

Hi man,I've seen you in a lot of ST lobbies lately, I thought those were your main game now.I'm a 100 ST reg, I'll be following this thread, and cool to have you here :)

You can't worry about the "don't have a +50 bb stack to come back from" aspect of it - all you can do is calculate the EV of different plays to the best of your ability and do whatever has the best EV. In STs, you can't afford to pass up on EV out of playing it safe because you're not sure of your opponent's tendencies yet."Is this a +EV card to double barrel against the general population of villains on average?" You'll get a lot better at answering these types of questions just like you've learned in reg speeds that it's correct to c-bet 56s on a A82 flop against a random opponent you know nothing about.You start out by assuming your opponent has frequencies similar to the average player, and then make adjustments from there. That maximises expectation.

1. The biggest determination of whether you should donk is your opponent's c-betting range, namely, when they don't c-bet often. When this is the case, donking for value and for bluff becomes a much more attractive option on boards where he has a lot of pairs/draws that are checking behind with his style (so lead top pair for value) or when most of his range misses the flop (donking as a bluff, or checking and leading turn when flop checked through).2. I think a smaller sizing is just fine especially on dry boards, especially against opponents who don't c/r bluff much or get induced.

I think call pre is correct with T9s. Weird on the flop. We need 35%. I would guess that we have that much, and call it off.The 8-10bb stuff is murky business. Against someone who I believe is minraise/folding a significant percentage, jamming is going to be best. Usually I only flat when I think my opponent is inducing basically all the time but my hand flops really well, like the hands you mention.

I think check/raise get it in is best. We have a ton of equity and ten high, very often a good recipe for raising. I'd be more inclined to c/c if we didn't have the straight draw and overcard to middle pair, and then the decision would depend on opening range/c-betting range.

"Standard reshove to someone opening 60% of buttons?? In addition, what hands if any would you opt to flat with here against someone opening so wide??  I'm guessing it's only good to flat call with certain ''flop well'' hands against people who open a narrower percentage??"Yep, I think a jam is fine/good against someone raising an above average % of buttons. Against someone opening pretty wide, I don't have too much of a flatting range here - 89o, T8o, Q8o, that type of stuff.Basically always at this stack depth I'm not flatting unless it "flops well". Against a wide opener the K4o stuff is better to jam pre, against a tight opener, it's better to fold pre, and there really isn't much of a stack depth where calling is best when <16bb. I do know that some, like Serk, would disagree with me there, though.

"What is your standard play 10-12 bbs deep with King high hands against people who open up anything higher than 40% of their buttons? Is it your default play to reshove all in EVERYTIME here against competent players who you know are opening a large frequency?? How does your thinking here differ for 12-15bbs deep, and maybe even a little more? In all honesty for me it feels a little strange at times to be folding king high from the big blind to people who I know are opening a large frequency, however at the same time it feels uncomfortable reshipping K2 all in for 12-15bbs"I think K2o is a standard fold knowing nothing about your opponent's raising range.Very often, regs have a pretty strong inducing range 10-12bb deep that really crushes Kx, and you should feel dirty about folding. Here's a crude estimation: If you think he's folding half the time, jam, if you think it's probably more like a quarter of the time, fold.K5o-K7o you can start thinking about flatting against a lot of opponents when closer to 14-15bb.

"1 - I know people seldom do it these days, but what is your oop range 25bbs deep for flat calling 3xs from the small blind??"I'm actually not of this opinion at all. For most people, 3xes are pretty strong ranges - a lot of pocket pairs and Ax. That's a bad range to jam on, but not at all a bad range to call against. I'm calling KQJT9 (pick any two from that group), as well as worse suited hands. I think hands like J8s, 97s, 67s are very easy calls against a 3x readless first hand , 

"2- I know it's not related to husng, but what does the term '' in a vacuum mean?'' Most people mean it as "readless", what you would do knowing nothing about your opponent.

"3- In relation to the link I gave to the risk oriented website..could u please go in a little bit more detail about why the article was so poor :-)..( I'm def gonna watch that film lol)" I'll just pick out a few things: a. Assumes that our opponent is calling with a static range, whether we're 20bb deep or 8bb deep. Because he applies the same calling range 20bb deep to 7.5bb deep, he comes up with silly conclusions, like that jamming 32o for 7.5bb is best. b. Assumes that we know what hands our opponent is folding to our shoves. c. Classifies a hand like 98s exactly the same as 32o 9bb deep, in the "Shove if your opponent is calling ridiculously tight" category. d. Considers only shove-or-fold, calls his strategy an "equilibrium" when it's not, and all sorts of things that offend math nerds like me everywhere.

"4- Against someone 3betting a ridiculously high % with shallow stacks 12-15 bbs what do you do with each of  the following hands.. j9s,k4s and k8o"I'd raise/call all three against this opponent.

"4- Against someone 3betting a ridiculously high % with shallow stacks 12-15 bbs what do you do with each of  the following hands.. j9s,k4s and k8o"At 11-12bbs would you still mr-call J9s and K4s or openshove them vs this guy? Also, I imagine this is fairly dependant on exactly how much he's 3betting, vs someone who is 3betting very wide but not quite ridiculously wide, would any of those 2 be an openjam even a little bit deeper?

I think K4s/J9s are perfectly fine to openjam 12bb deep and close to the expectation from limping - see this article. Against this guy, it really depends on how much he flats - I'm always openjamming K4s for 11bb against someone with a significant flatting range OOP, J9s plays a little better but you'd still rather people fold pre. I think once you get above 12bb other options are usually better.

The Q9 hand vs Siervos, I'm rly surprised he cheked back JT there, maybe he thought he'll get too much credit if he barrels a board pairing card and fold out all worse hands, bcz he's capable of some pretty thin turn barrel, much thinner that JT on 67T6, or maybe he thinks you're nitty vs 2barrels in general, so his range is weighted towards bluffs and not thin value? I def think most intresting part of the hand is his turn check-back, regarding your river bet, I'm not a huge fan, I def think he's looking you up there with any pair, your 7x are prob checking river, 6x is unlikely bcz of preflop combos, your Tx are c/ring flop a good amount at this stack depth, I don't think you rep enough value, and on the other hand you rep a hand like you have pretty well...That's actually a good spot to vbet A7 rather than bluff Q9 I think, also in general I think Sierovs' game is weighted towads being stationy, but maybe it's just vs me

A4 hand: if he's not barrely I like the c/r, if he's barrely def let him barrel off but if he's not we can def induce with a c/r. I think by c/ring we rep even less aces, bcz I think the "std" line 34 deep is c/c with A4 there, I def think that if he hits a K or a J there you're getting called down a ton, turn rly sucks inedeed, in-game I think I check it but I'm not sure, wonder what's Hokie will say

hey leon. welcome back to the forum. looking forward to working with you some more. will get to your questions in a little bit, putting in a few games atm.

Few Questions....... 1 - I understand that it's correct to call with a very wide range from the BB, against wide openers and that for some hands even if though your going to be losing chips playing them if they do better than -1BB it's +ev to be calling with them.However, does villains level of postflop competency every come into play here?? For example if your playing someone who your expecting to be double/triple barreling a bunch, putting you in a bunch of awkward spots when your in the bb, Is it worthwhile to fold the bottom of your calling range from the BB against a competent player, or does this just make us super exploitable?? 2- Against fish/players calling 3bet shoves super wide, I'm jamming 22-66 up to 50bbs against someone opening 70% from the button, however against a reg/very good player is still still the most +ev line to take when you take into consideration that when you get called by such a player for let's say 45bbs etc your equity is going to be pretty small.Good to be working with you again Leon. Feel free to hit me with a lot of questions towards the end of this month, since you got a late start.1-against someone who is tough to play oop, you might take a few of the hands towards bottom of your calling range and they can have better expectation as 3bet bluffs - some of the weaker suited stuff, def not K5o Q5o type stuff tho as thats really dominated by 3b calling range.the great thing about Mers' initial range he argued for us to widen oop with is that very few of the hands in his range were actually borderline. almost all had significantly better than -1bb expectation, and like he says - he's not the most creative/aggro postflop player or anything (i'd assume thats bc of multitabling tho).also, while Mers' expectation of his hands is probably slightly better than most other husng players' expectation with the same hands - he plays higher stakes than most other husng players too...so his avg opponent is better, so if your avg player is worse than his you can probably make up for the difference in expectation there. does that make sense?so maybe 3bet bluff a few more if it makes sense to vs a tough player to play oop agianst. definitely we are able to widen our calling range vs v ez players oop - i've had opponents where i play up to 80% of hands oop against tbh (very rare).i would basically never play <55% of hands oop, no matter who i'm playing against - if they are minraising their button with a wide range.2- well a good player probably raises wider than most fish first offsecondly, their tighter calling range means we have more fold equity with our shoveso both cases are fine to shove.check out my article about 3bet shoving a wide c/r + ev calc. in the article, i use an ev calc to determine the chipEV of jamming over the c/r. use this exact calculation for this situation here, just plug in the variables necessary for this situation.let me know if u need help w that.

A4:just be careful with the turn barrel sample size. if he's cbet flop 5 times and checked turn all 5, i'd say thats pretty significant. if he's cbet 5 times, you've c/r'd twice, and he's checked turns 3 times - not so significant imo (also think about board textures).there is a lot you can get value from at this eff stx depth with a c/r too. TX not folding, lots of gutshots KJ etc, oesd etc.i like turn check as played for sure.QT:if you haven't seen him cbetting much or being aggro in general, i would donkbet this flop. you have a strong hand, but it's very vulnerable to a lot of turn cards (not that we'll have worst hand on lots of turns, but action killers kind of). so i like a donkbet here of 75% pot or so. as played, i'm calling turn and reevaluating. i think it's pretty rare that someone takes a bluff line that involves checking the flop and then going nuts on the turn/river. i would call turn and fold to a lot of river bets.KQ: just be careful here bc i'm pretty sure he'll be aware that it's a board you are going to barrel v light on bc his perceived range has no AX in it. so i expect him to call off v light, and once he calls turn his range is basically JX imo and almost nothing else. i think it's a v bad idea to barrel an 8 river or something, bc i don't think he's ever folding JX (correctly)as played, i like it of what i mentioned above - i think he'll level himself into a call plenty, and i expect you to have the best hand here almost always too.

1 - On what sort of board textures, or against what villain player types is a good idea to donk lead from the BB in raised pots preflop. 2- Against a wide-ish opener let's say 80% up to what stack depth is it maximum +ev to shove A8o A7s etc...30bbs??question 1: this is a Q & A from chadders' thread. follow up with more questions if this doesn't fully answer it for you..."Another thing i used to think about a lot was the the spot to donk readless, i asked about and i got nobody who could give me a concise description of their readless donking strategy, (other than your nugget of donking wet flops with gutshots, the only spot i think warrants it). but i think realised donking kinda shouldnt be done readless (in raised pots) but should likely be one of the first adjustments we make in face of a less than aggressive opponent, for example if i see someone check back any ace high flop or 2-3 dry flops thats me going donk crazy with a value and bluff range, kinda using my perception of spots which i consider mandatory cbets for say 80%+ of villains range to extrapolate that their will be a lot of checking back.Not just wet boards with gutshots. Think about how your hand plays if you c/c or c/r and then compare that to donkbetting. I think when you think about more situations this way it should be more clear.QT6hh flop we flatted K3hh oop. 24bb stacks. options: check/call - definitely +ev, we do get barreled off some though. when we hit a lot of villains will be shutting down their value range a ton due to scare card (also the K is a card most villains shut down on too), so it will be hard to get a lot of value. check/raise - marginally +ev to +ev, if villain is cbetting a really wide range this will be our best option since we get value from the fold equity we have with his wide cbetting range. most villains dont cbet this board that wide though, so i dont think this is the best option typically. we will have maybe 40-45% equity vs the typical stacking off range if our c/r get jammed on probably, so not that great.donkbet (and donk/3bet) - best option if villain isnt cbetting really wide. most villains respect a donkbet less than a c/r on a board like this, so the range that continues flatting or raising us we should be doing better against than vs a c/r. if our donkbet gets raised we can comfortably 3bet jam - no awkward turn stack size situations like when our c/r gets flatted. also we take initiative away from villain, his flatting range should be relatively weak on a wet board like this so we will still have some opportunities to barrel off as a bluff unimproved. some other hands that i would donkbet (again, if someone is cbetting really wide on all boards then i think donkbetting is far less relavent): also, depending on stack sizes these can bet donkbet/calls or donkbet/3bets - most of them will be donk/3bets since stacks are short in super turbo and ranges will be wider bc of that, deeper stack games you can bet call some of them more.T9 on 872 86 on 752QJ on 982JThh on 752h (overs+backdoor fd)87 on J94What do you think?"question 2:ya 30 bbs, but if i'm jamming A8o then i'm jamming all suited aces too - A2s and A8o will have basically the same equity vs a typicall calling range. but ya somewhere around 30bb mess around with the EV calc i use in the article titled, "3bet shoving a wide c/r as a semibluff". plug in the variables for this type of situation and see what kind of results you get, compare that vs estimated flatting ev - just helps to develop a better intuitive sense of this imo.

K8:i don't really mind how you played it too much, but i think it's somewhat of an unnecessary spot for donkbetting tbh. your opponent cbets 75%, but for most players that cbet that frequency - this is the kind of board that they don't cbet very wide. if the average player doesn't cbet very wide, what benefit is there in donkbetting? they check back a lot of their air/A high type stuff and we can lead turns very well with a lot of fold equity. if we donkbet, we are donking into a range that contains a ton of hands that can continue. i just want to donk when it is a better option than c/c or c/r. since we can actually expect most villains to be pretty fit or fold with their cbet here, and not barrel wide much, c/c seems like the best option to me.what do you think?J9:pretty gross spot. i like flatting and stacking off on non-spade turns, maybe folding Q turns as well depending on villains bet size. don't really see us getting called by much worse if we 3bet/jam the flop, so might as well keep the occasionall bluffs in range anyway.i wouldn't fold here readless.85:i like your line. probably get the river slightly bigger - don't really like jam though as i don't really see KX ever calling and AX will find folds some too. plus we can def bet/fold this river when we bet 280 here imo.97: ya nice hand, good thought process. i would definitely lead diamond rivers though - i think you are implying that too.JT:ya with stacks of 910 and pot of 780, i don't really think many thinking players are going to perceive any non-allin size as very weak. i'd expect most thinking players to hero an overbet shove of 910 with AQ/AJ/99 type stuff a little more often than they would check/shove a bet of 330. it depends on the player though, but i def think a jam is looked at as pretty drawy here. it's close though, and as long as you are betting this turn to bet/call obv then i'm fine with it. nice hand.95s:reads? if he's opening like 65% this is going to be fine. J2:you need to be right on river call 150/540 or about 30%. i don't think he's going to have 30% of hands in his range you beat. i'd expect him to have c/r'd flop with over+fd hands, probably not too many floats, his ace/king highs will check with showdown value on river - only hands i can see as a bluff are counterfeited lower pocket pairs and lower spade combos....not even close to enough to make up 30% of his range on this river.def a fold imo.A9:i would definitely be 3x'ing this villain preflop with about 60% of hands. playing 6bb pots vs someone like this >>>> 4bb pots for sure. i don't mind flop, tho with showdown value i think flatting is probably better. bluff-raising hands with less showdown value like JT, 78 etc. i think you can expect that when villain calls the turn he's never folding the river really. he can't have missed draws. bc of this, i'd just bet turn a little bigger to maximize turn fold equity and encourage 6X/2X to give up - not much bigger but like t280ish. then just check back rivers.Q3o:Q3o is a really bad hand to 3bet bluff. it has very little postflop playability compared to hands like T4s, 85s, J5s etc. i would definitely stick to hands like those for your 3bet bluffing, barring situations where 3betting ridiculously wide is +ev.postflop, if we have no fold equity, we need to have 900/2640 equity to get it in or just above 33%. our hand is about 20-23%ish vs a slightly wide get-it-in range here. so if you think your fold equity makes up for that difference go for it (use the ev calc i mentioned above to get more familiar w this). but no, just bc you cbet the flop i don't think you need to stack off here.also, i would be careful coorelating a high flop c/r % to a high flop raise % in this spot. i mean after his raise he's put in half of eff stx, so he's basically committed to call a jam even with 2 overs like JT or something (close). i don't think even many aggro/spewy players are doing this too much with total air (and we need them to be doing it with a decent bit of total air for jamming to be good here).