I need some help hand reading this turn donk lead + river 3barrel?
What does his range look like?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
$6.85+$0.15
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter
| BB | ChancenTode | 490 | |
| SB | Hero | 510 |
Effective Stacks: 25bb
Blinds 10/20
Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is SB
Hero raises to 40, ChancenTode calls 20
Flop (80, 2 players)
ChancenTode checks, Hero bets 40, ChancenTode calls 40
Turn (160, 2 players)
ChancenTode bets 100, Hero calls 100
River (360, 2 players)
ChancenTode goes all-in 310, Hero folds
Final Pot: 360
ChancenTode wins 670 ( won +180 )
Hero lost -180
get it in on turn
i´d say he´s donking turned 2 pairs, straights and flushes. (i.e. 58, 69, 78. he´d raise any K (maybe not a king with a suit to give him a flushdraw to fall back on) and 57 on the flop i guess)
against his range you have 50% on the river. i excluded the top of his range (like suited aces and the suited broadway kings), because most would 3bet that PF. if you exclude 58 from his range, because he got counterfeited and therefore is more unlikely to push, you still have 38%. if he´s only donking straights and flushes, you have 45% on the river. it´s a difficult decision. i probably would have called, just out of curiosity (yes, another one of my leaks. i tend to get a little too curious sometimes).
and i think you need to push on the turn to protect against onecard flushdraws. you have the worst possible flush. get it in, while it´s likely you are ahead.
and it´s really starting to annoy me that i can´t link to a PPT-simluation.
cheers
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Thanks guys.
I was readless at this stage.
As the game progressed, villain turned out to be a fairly irratic player => eg. donking 2nd pair holdings small for 3 streets, c/c then c/r on later streets with total air, fairly active in smack talking chat when he overplayed a weak made hand etc
In hindsight, I think I can jam the turn.
I tend to agree that the turn donk can be a lot of 2pair type holdings which are protecting against the 4th card to the flush coming on the river.
With a 4 high flush, at the time I felt like I would be value owning myself by jamming over the lead.
But in hindsight, flatting doesn't really help unless I'm committing to also calling a river jam on any non diamond river.
=> Because he can feasibly be jamming the river with what he thinks are value hands + any bluffs if he has them in his range after I flat the turn donk
Like how you play your hand except im calling river, especially at this stacksize. Sure he could have you beat sometimes but people are also leading 69 that turned a straight and shoving river too, certain players with low fold to cbet % are also leading floats that picked up equity and shoving river cause they dont expect you to flatcall a flush on the turn, im sure part of the reason you flatcalled there is to trick your oppenent into thinking that which may induce him to keep bluffing, with that reasoning I think you should be calling a shove on any card but a diamond as a lot of his floats that pick up equity has a medium to strong diamonds in it.
You shouldnt really be worried about a fullhouse apart from 78, he should reraise 2pair on the flop vs draws, its too wet to flatcall. Only hands you should be worried about is 78 and better flushes, I think your good too many times here to fold unless you have a strong read on the opp being super tight and never bluffing or jamming worse value.