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MASTER PACK - QUESTIONS

Hey guys I have been watching the master pack and I just have a couple questions about a few spots. In the Mersenneary 3 video there is and hand history from the weak tight leaks where someone folds K6o to a min bet on 95J rainbow board.
Im just wondering how you would play the turn if they made another min bet ?
 
 
Also in the missing bluffs leaks there is a hand when someone is dealt 9h7d in the BB and the flop comes 6s3sJs and it goes check, check. The turn comes Ks and we lead the turn for 50 and the villian flats. Then the river is an 8h and we check the river and Mersenneary says its a leak not to bet
Im just wondering what sizing should we bet this river ? Bet "x" into a pot of 180, what size should we make "x"?
 
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Good questions. These were

Good questions. These were two of the less clear cut hands, and give some opportunity to go into more depth.
Against a frequent pansexual-sized donkbettor, any hand that gets to showdown and allows you to hone in on his ranges is extremely important. Same goes for whenever you get a fold when you raise. This isn't super enlightening advice because it's clear that this would be true, but I can't tell you how many students have no answers to the questions of "what kind of range has he done this with so far?" and "what evidence do you have that he might be capable of folding hands?" during reviews, in practice. Remember even when you have hands and your play to raise is easier, to pay attention to what he calls down with/if he folds for information about future hands. There's a difference between knowing to talk about doing this in poker theory conversations and actually doing it in your normal grind.
Given a turn donkbet, I'm bluffing a lot. I'm honestly not sure where the line is for which cards to bluff, but I see people not bluff an Ace turn/follow through on river which I think is terrible against all but the loosest villains. I'm raising and following through really often on QT9875 but these spots are closer. I'm calling on a 6 and am fine with folding on J432. You can definitely get too spewy against loose villains, but against the donkbet to protect hand/weak tight opponents, not bluffing frequently in these situations just kills you.
I also thought minbettors had significant timing tells with regard to strength of hand, and once you hone in and know someone has mid/bottom pair, then it's just a game of making sure you follow through on the right bluff cards. But regardless of all this, you get plenty of the equity just from the fact that it's 20 into 80 and your K6 is hardly dead.
 
I don't have a great sense of what size is best on the river in the four flush hand - if "god of poker" told me it was anywhere between 60-240, I wouldn't really find myself shocked. My intuition is to bet 160, but I don't know. I almost didn't include this hand in the video and while I tend to think it's a bet because villain's range is more limited to weaker spades, I don't think it's a big deal. Not betting the turn would be a much bigger mistake.