hey guys
to situate you guys this is a regular sng hu,
heres the situation most players i play against are fish that have a low % of fold to cbet so most of the times its hard to get him out when i cbet in bluff or semi bluff, lets say i have KT and the flop comes out A 7 2, so i cbet and villain call, turn comes lets say a J, this is a good card to 2nd barrel, and we got a GS, because most of the times i know this guys calls down OTF with 2nd or 3rd pair, backdoors, K high even Q high, it sounds crazy but it happens, so lets say i 2nd barrel OTT with our GS to make him fold his floats and all his random crap, and villain calls, river comes out lets say 8, at this point i cant make him fold because i have K high with little SD value, so i CK BK and villain shows Q 2.... so what to do vs this kind of station villain?
Actually, the GTO fold-vs-cbet percentage is pretty low.... somebody folding more than about 45% would be pretty severely exploitable. So any pair is a GTO call on the flop, from villains perspective. Not crazy at all, despite how it appears... even with a K-high.
Vs a villain floating "properly" or wide, barrel the third street and get a million folds. Definitely with the gutter, albeit a missed one, that's a GTO jam... you've invested plenty of chips in appearing strong. That said, I'd have folded turn in villain's position as you described it.
Hope this helps
tx for the reply, well reading your post i have to say im little newbie in understanding what you excatly mean with all those technicall strategy expressions, im humble enough to admit to i understand lets say 1/3 of what you just said
ok, so you re saying that vs this kind of villain 3rd barrell bluff its quite profitable, ok 1st question: how do i know if villain isnt slowplaying his floppped TP, 2 PAIR, or evern a SET,
do you think the line of narrowing our cbet range its profitable, or following the line of open limping IP its put in equation here or not
this players normally play aggressively their flopped FD or OEsd so should we cbet TP in wetboards here?
1) You know that villains range is wide, but it still includes sets, 2-pairs etc... vs these hands we simply lose a lot of chips. His range is so wide that the most profitable thing to do is to just barrel off. It's quite a standard line with a gutter and some pair outs here if villain is calling really wide... just be careful to notice if and when he adjusts. But, honestly, on this board we have really really strong hands a lot of the time, mainly big Ax, and villain has far fewer strong hands... it's almost normal to bet three streets here, certainly a good adjustment if villain is calling too wide. Careful for turns and rivers which pair the board, give up on these cards because we shouldn't be betting our 1-pair hands under top pair too much... and so you'll get called a lot lighter, and correctly so. And if a flush draw comes in on turn or river, again I would give up.
2) You should cbet less of the time when you don't have anything, and more of the time when you have any kind of equity, even a backdoor flush draw or gutshot. You can then profitably bet the turn and river quite a lot of the time, assuming it corresponds with the hands that you can have in your range. Just check back when you haven't got a piece of the board, or when you flop 2nd pair or worse... don't want to get mixed up in a big pot with bad pairs.
3) Sure, why not limp hands like Q3o, 58o, T5o etc. And fold to a raise.
Hope this helps