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Theo2014's picture
Playing Vs. a limp

Hi,

Was wondering what the math theory looks like when constructing a range vs. a limping range or where to find it. I.e. If I have a good read that someone is limping 80% what is best to raise or vs. some limping 40%, at the moment I have a standard range that I contract and expand based on reads.... But I want to understand it more than just "this guy is limping a lot lets raise these hands and shove over with these hands" I want to know that vs. a 80% limper I'm extracting the most value I can get. I know other factors come into i.e. how often villain limp-folds, limp-calls raise/shove...

Basically I don’t want someone to give me a range, I would like someone to explain or point me in the direction of how to exploit a villain who limps (with maths backing up the play)

Thanks

4 card brett's picture
you could get an

you could get an unexploitable shoving range with preflop math, but i am not to sure about a limp raise (non all in with some fold to reraise) range based on math without using the villains stats, limp fold, fold to cbet in limp call hands etc

even basic ranges people have credibly given for random or unknown people are looking at the population tendencies they have of those mentioned stats

the best thing to do if u want to improve is watch more vids but also get a math program for preflop shove math such as ICMIZER (monthly payment) or coffeecalcs 1 off payment and for post flop range equity use flopzilla (monthly payment as well i think) or coffeecalcs

this will help you see how your raise ranges compare too what you believe based on hud frequencies and what you have seen, your villains ranges of limp call, limp jam etc do against your ranges of raising etc ,

Theo2014's picture
Thanks 4 Card Brett, I watch

Thanks 4 Card Brett,

I watch as much as I can, do you know of any particular vids addressing limpers?

I use CREV beta for preflop math. I am tempted for Flopzilla though CoffeCalcs (as it addresses pre and post flop) looks like the better option, though only once my BR allows it. I will keep playing with CREV and try to come up with the best option vs. diff %s.

I'm currently playing in the micros, so for post flop villain play is generally not up to scratch, though Im no expert.

4 card brett's picture
a vid against chronic limpers

a vid against chronic limpers .. i do not know one off hand as limping alot seems to happen alot less as you move up

 

Theo2014's picture
I'm looking forward to moving

I'm looking forward to moving up....