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Ecotone's picture
Use Holdem manager to work its game!

Hi,
First excuse me for my english...
I play on 23$ in pokerstars my name is Rozzos and I'm not good!
I need to do something that's why I bought holdem manager!

How can I use Holdem manager to make progres? I don't know what to do... Is there a method? What are the most important things to analyse?
And my last question, how can i progress to put an opponent on a range?

Thanks everybody!

blitzilla's picture
wrong start

As Far as Im concerned theres nothing you can do  to help your game with Holdem manager Playing Husng, stats are useless.
now what to do to actually progress

1) If u havnt bought a subscription  to this site.. well go do it, you can also watch sample videos from different coaches to see what suits you the best
If you want suggestion, I found PrimordiaAA  series helping me  alot in my debut, Watching Rypac videos will help you alot his tought process is really good and he explains  quite nicely, cog dissonance videos are really crazy good, tho its a different approach, if u like it he offers  coaching course ( 4hours) and its really good for beginers

2) read some stickies on twoplustwo.com but dont take everything for granted, think on your own please :)

3) stay away for now from videos showcasing 3-6 tables of Hu, you will not get ANYTHING  out of those at your stage.... it might just hurt you more, try watching videos with low stakes game. theyre better suited for you cuz the game is different at higer stakes

enough for now gl!

jackoneill's picture
Oh, I wouldn't call it

Oh, I wouldn't call it "useless" ;-)

You may want to watch BigSage's excellent videos http://www.husng.com/node/1440 and http://www.husng.com/node/1444 to find out what you can do with it ...


xSCWx's picture
I always argued that HUDs

I always argued that HUDs were useless because of the changing blinds and effective stack sizes, but after getting HEM recently I think it is more applicable than I gave it credit for. Basically, I just hand picked stats that I found to be useful and look for anyone that is doing anything extreme:

Open from SB
Call open from BB
3bet
Fold to 3bet
4bet
Cbet
Fold to cbet
Raise cbet

I think maybe a few other stats as well. For example, if I am playing against someone who is opening 100% from the SB then I will start 3betting him a lot. If I am playing against someone who is raising my cbet 50% I will start jamming middle pair and draws over his raises. If I am playing against someone who folds to 70% of my 3bets then I will 3bet them non-stop.

It isn't as useful as it would be in a game where the effective stacks are fixed (like cap!) but it can still be useful if you are creative with how you approach it.

Ecotone's picture
Thank you very much for your

Thank you very much for your answers guys!

blitzilla's picture
strange

I Have a pretty different view on that, You know better than me that a Hu match is constantly evolving ppl are changing gears which renders stats useless imo
+  do you really need  stats to know  a dude is cbeting a High% or is  opening nearly 100% or is  not folding to cbet a strange amount... Iunno i only single table but  I mean I have a pretty good feeling  about  these things. and on top of that, Hu  is such  an unbounded game, every hand is different . I have this feeling that HUD makes you play on auto pilot and dumb. + a wyze man once said I cannot teach you how to play poker, but I can teach you how to think about poker... in that  sense  rather Know what my openent thinks than what my openent plays... dunno if that makes sense

on top of that  how can u  trust a stats that contains 43hands in which u 3bet 2time and in which case he had AA and KK and jammed on top of you..., Might be usefull at your stake since you play the same  players  much more than the op playing the 23$  where  in 1k games would play the same guy once or twice

RyPac13's picture
The less tables you play and

The less tables you play and the more you can focus on the tables you have up, the more likely it is that a HUD is unecessary.

Was OP even talking about a HUD though?  I can understand making that connection, but I think it's possible he was just asking about how to utilize HEM to improve your game (a HUD would be a legitimate answer though, but hardly the only one).

You can review your matches and look at your frequencies against your opponent's, looking to see if anything stands out.  For example, if I see an opponent I played with a very high fold to c-bet %, and I see my c-bet % was extremely low, I would probably want to look through that match for further review.  Why?  Because you usually c-bet a very high % against players that fold to c-bets a lot.  You don't often connect hard on the flop, so fold equity is often as important as value betting.  In order for my low c-bet % to be correct in that example, I would have had to have flopped a lot of very strong hands that I decided to check back instead of c-betting (even then, a c-bet is not always incorrect, hardly).

niceiq25's picture
I would really love to

I would really love to know how should the best % for each of the followings
Open from SB
Call open from BB
3bet
Fold to 3bet
4bet
Cbet
Fold to cbet
Raise cbet                         should look like... I think it could be a good way to see your leaqs ... how does your statistics look like xSCWx?

RyPac13's picture
Those stats are highly

Those stats are highly dependent on your opponents.

Against a guy that folds to 3bets, you might be 3betting a tremendous amount of hands, upwards of 50%.

Against a guy that is calling 3bets somewhat loosely, you probably won't 3bet near 50%.

The same goes for all the other ones.

Your open sb should be high, your cbet % should be high, but beyond that it's not easy to see real leaks on these stats unless you're doing something extreme regularly (such as a 3bet % of 60%, that's likely not good if that's your overall 3bet %).

Elemental570's picture
I just wanted to add that

I just wanted to add that you can have HEM filter your opponent's stats for each blind level as you're playing. I always like to filter out the early blind levels once you get to 25/50 since alot of players start becoming more aggressive as the blinds increase.  This probably wouldn't be as useful for turbo players but would be for regular speed.

dzikijohnny's picture
How do you get HEM to filter

How do you get HEM to filter by blind levels? I only see how to do it by number of players.

MrJayOMG's picture
I have PT3 hud running but

I have PT3 hud running but I never use the stats, mainly just to see what hand they were playing cuz I'm too lazy to press prev hand button!

I honestly can't see how the stats would be useful as (and maybe this is my incorrect assumptions) the play should vary dependant on stacks to some degree. Even in the early game either one of you could take a big hit to the stacks & from then on the dynamic of the game changes.

unidentity's picture
I could easily see the HUD

I could easily see the HUD being used for the better. Yes, dynamics are consistently changing in HU but the more hands you have on an opponent the more those stats become closer to how they play. How many hands you would need for HUD to be accurate is relative but I could easily see it being beneficial. However, you should never ONLY rely on HEM for information. You obv need to pay attention.

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