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DntCaltACmBk's picture
Were these two hands played "correctly"?

I worry that I am just being a bit results oriented here, but I'm hoping you guys can check out these hands and advise on if the plays are fine or if there is a more optimal line to take. It's frustrating because I had the chip lead in both games the entire time, so hits like these really irk me and it is hard to be objective enough to know if this is bad luck or bad play.

(For the record, I came back and won both games)

HAND 1: Opponent is LAG. He min raises almost every one of his SBs and 2BB Cbets every time. I proceeded with this hand with that in mind.

PokerStars Game #37542614202: Tournament #227896157, $11.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/02 14:30:16 ET
Table '227896157 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: maxde88 (1290 in chips)
Seat 2: DntCaltACmBk (1710 in chips)
maxde88: posts small blind 25
DntCaltACmBk: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DntCaltACmBk [Jd Jc]
maxde88: raises 50 to 100
DntCaltACmBk: calls 50
*** FLOP *** [7d 2h 5s]
DntCaltACmBk: checks
maxde88: bets 100
DntCaltACmBk: raises 200 to 300
maxde88: calls 200
*** TURN *** [7d 2h 5s] [6d]
DntCaltACmBk: bets 300
maxde88: raises 590 to 890 and is all-in
DntCaltACmBk: calls 590
*** RIVER *** [7d 2h 5s 6d] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DntCaltACmBk: shows [Jd Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
maxde88: shows [6s 4d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
maxde88 collected 2580 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2580 | Rake 0
Board [7d 2h 5s 6d 3c]
Seat 1: maxde88 (button) (small blind) showed [6s 4d] and won (2580) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 2: DntCaltACmBk (big blind) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks

HAND 2: Opponent is loose-passive. With effective stacks being 13BBS, everything from Nash to my old lady neighbor with dementia says this is standard, yes?

PokerStars Game #37542548410: Tournament #227896131, $11.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2010/01/02 14:29:00 ET
Table '227896131 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fast_lane888 (669 in chips)
Seat 2: DntCaltACmBk (2331 in chips)
fast_lane888: posts small blind 25
DntCaltACmBk: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DntCaltACmBk [8d 8s]
fast_lane888: raises 50 to 100
DntCaltACmBk: raises 2231 to 2331 and is all-in
fast_lane888: calls 569 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1662) returned to DntCaltACmBk
*** FLOP *** [Ts Th Kd]
fast_lane888 said, "gg"
*** TURN *** [Ts Th Kd] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [Ts Th Kd 3c] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DntCaltACmBk: shows [8d 8s] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
fast_lane888: shows [7s Qs] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
fast_lane888 collected 1338 from pot
fast_lane888 said, "phew ha"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1338 | Rake 0
Board [Ts Th Kd 3c Qd]
Seat 1: fast_lane888 (button) (small blind) showed [7s Qs] and won (1338) with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 2: DntCaltACmBk (big blind) showed [8d 8s] and lost with two pair, Tens and Eights

Newff's picture
3bet hand 1, hand 2 is

3bet hand 1 forsure if he's LAG, hand 2 is super standard

xSCWx's picture
I agree with Newff on both.

I agree with Newff on both, except that hand 1 I am 3betting even if he isn't LAG. It would take some very specific reads for me to not 3bet this (like someone that I know will give my 3bet a lot of respect but will go nuts for 3 streets if I flat call).

DntCaltACmBk's picture
Thanks SCW. If you have a

Thanks SCW. If you have a sec, could you check out my other thread "Identified a leak, can't plug it - help"? Would love to get your insight.

Newff's picture
Yes I am definaitely

Yes I am definaitely 3-betting JJ no matter what, I guess I was just trying to say how bigger of a mistake it is to not 3bet it when a LAG will be calling way looser.