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Why I bluffed here? Explained(video). 3Bet Flop Bluff Explained with Example

Why I bluffed here? Explained(video). 3Bet Flop Bluff Explained with Example.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuej-U82KmM

tQrresnor's picture
Nice video - thoughts and

Nice video - thoughts and chill music :) Keep 'em coming! 

crazydonk's picture
Thank you.

Thank you.

adam25185's picture
Hmm. Not sure if i like your

Hmm. Not sure if i like your play. This sort of thing feels fantastic when it comes off, but if we're playing back with air on a regular basis the guy can call with any pair, and shove over your 3bet with any draw. The board is also way too wet, so it's likely that opponent has something. Personally, I'd wait for a better spot. I'd probably wouldn't even have cbet, in fact. 

Nice to hear further comments.

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I am playing as most

I am playing as most aggressive poker as I can. Actually I did not play against noone yet who played as aggressive as me in my whole poker carrer(I did not make 100.000 dollars; but I hade made some money). In my opinion the only way you can make money playing poker is to play aggressive - by aggressive poker you put your opponents in awkward positions(in which they tell you alot of informations and people usually do a lot of mistakes if they are in awkward positions - people react wrong in awkward positions ).I really try to explain in this video shortly why I did that move(I could write alot more about that move; I also use simple english so it will be more understandable). 

About your comments on the video:

- Everybody has their own opinion in what good play is(I think that is why poker is fun; I think there is no 100 % perfect game in poker; so many factors,..- only my opinion.).

-I am playing aggressive poker (I am trying to win allmost every pot in which I think my opponent is weak). Sure that means that i am playing with a lot of air. But If my opponent does not know that I am playing alot with air, it really does not matter if I play with air. There are very few players that would call turn with low or middle pair, even if they knew I am playing with a lot of air. I play the same way strong hands. Also, there is reason why I made 3-bet(one of the most powerful moves in poker(usually means very good hand). A lot of people are "scared" of 3-bet. Especially with ace on flop like in my video.

-Yes this can go wrong from time to time - rarely(I mentioned how in video in the example; if he had flush option and he would hit this flush on turn then I would probably lose all my chips- low procentage for that(you can not win every game at poker,...). Even If I would lose this game, I would adapt my game style in next game with him(I would be playing very different; but still aggressive).

- I represent Ace on this flop, does not matter what he has(options of what he has are written in video;also he can be bluffing with his reraise on flop) he has less then 40 percent in his opinion to win this game (flush draw or straight draw has less then 40 percent to complete),...In HU poker if you are trying to hit 40 percent and if you "know" your opponent has something(my "ace" in this game) this is very bad move(40 percent and all chips(possibly) - losing money move in long run.

I hope now you understand how I look at poker(my opinion; i hope i wrote everything understandable; it is really hard to explain my "unique" view on poker but I am trying to do that).I Anyway, I appriciate your opinion.

 

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 "In my opinion the only way

 "In my opinion the only way you can make money playing poker is to play aggressive"

This makes no sense. You make money in poker by maximizing the number of chips. In some cases that is a fold, a call or whatever. I would advice someone like you, who is interested enough in poker to make a video, to watch some of the free videos here at husng.com. There is a lot of free and readily available information that can give you a better thought process and set you on a brighter poker path. gl ! 

crazydonk's picture
I appriciate your opinion.

I appriciate your opinion. But I do not agree with you. Aggressive poker does not mean that I can not fold. It is just type of the game, in which, In my opinion you put opponents in awkward positions(people make alot of mistakes in awkward positions).It is very hard to explain and allmost impossible to explain shorty what aggressive poker means. Anyway, thank you for your help.

For sjovt's picture
I think the problem is that

I think the problem is that you don't have a clear framework of thinking about about poker. The concepts of applying a style etc. is a short cut to make quick decisions, but in general such thinking comes from poor reasoning and lack of understanding. You should once and for all forget about a preferred style of poker if you want to take poker seriously. You should instead consider each spot independently and try to maximize the number of chips you gain at every decision point. This is of course much harder, but that is why there is still money to be made in poker.
 
I can appreciate if you want to keep playing aggressive poker because you think this is fun. Or because you think it is an easy way to make some money without thinking more deeply about poker - this is probably true. Good luck sir! And if you still disagree with me, I would advice you to try and form clear arguments why you are I am wrong instead of just taking a stance. That will probably also help you in the future in poker and avoid sticking to "rules of thumb" that are only applicable in special circumstances.

 

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Another caveat here, is that

Another caveat here, is that the most successful HU hyper players at mid-high stakes don't use a style that could possibly be considered very aggressive vs fun players / recreationals. In comparison the "style" is much more aggressive in reg vs reg play. This should be reason enough for you, to think more deeply about your decision making than merely sticking to a preferred style.  

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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION about

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION about VIDEO:

- I raise allmost everything preflop in the beggining of sng - hu(blinds 10/20) and then I see what my opponent "tell" me on flop,... - by aggressive poker you put your opponents in awkward positions(in which they tell you alot of informations and people usually do a lot of mistakes if they are in awkward positions - people react wrong in awkward positions ). And this way is alot easier to put your opponents on cards. Alot of people does not understand that. Very hard to explain.
- Aggressive poker does not mean that I can not fold or something like this(or playing like maniac)- alot of people does not understand that one.
-Person that I played is not completly rookie or begginer ( only complete begginers in my opinion you can not analyze- well you could but to a certain point,...) - other people can be analyzed (alot of people play by pattern-but they do not know that) . This pattern that i mentioned is visible when people are in awkward positions. That is why aggressive poker makes money(not maniac poker) in my opinion.
-This opponent in the video is never chasing something unreasonable(everything that has low percent to win game). He is playing actually good poker.
-When you bluff(this one you should read carefully because it is not allways like this; but usually is like this you need initiative after every your move if you want to succeed- hard to explain- if I try to explain this very simple - you should raise or reraise with every move(For example in video:raise preflop, raise on flop, 3-bet on flop, raise on turn; after every his move I took intiative in the hand - that usually means very good hand) - even if opponent does not know alot about poker he usually "knows" that you have very good hand by doing that.
-Probably he is ahead on flop. But I do not care about that. That is why I think this bluff is excelent. I am not trying to fold here. I am trying to make him fold, .I was allmost sure that I would win this pot using every poosible thing that I know about bluffing(alot of things are mentioned in the video and in all the text i wrote; I did not mentioned everything because it is so much to write; maybe I will some other time). You can look video again and see at which point I "know" he has nothing worth calling my big raise(not preflop).
-about folding my hand: in the worst case scenario for me he has flush draw( that means he has 19 percent to "win on turn"; that means he will unlikely hit this). Others options have less percentage to win. He missed everything so he folds, like I assumed because all ot the things I wrote.
-about him slowplaying - Because i am playing every opponent as idividual and unique i make some assumptions how will they play something(how did they play in the past,...).The easiest way for him to win my chips is to slowplay monster hand(i raise so much,..) and not by reraising me with monsters(I usually fold) . But this is just this person. Some other people would do different thing. Anyway, when you assume how your opponents will play you must take alot of factors into consideration(even if he is not experienced player, he is doing some moves by pattern; probably he does not know that). I know how I played when i started and I know how begginers play(they are doing alot of things by pattern - and they do not know that).
- I think this bluff is very good also because it is out of the box thinking(big raising ,.. but if I assume all that i wrote here and in the video; that is very EXCELLENT BLUFF).

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crazydonk's picture
I am not using HUD(I do not

I am not using HUD(I do not use any poker software) while playing POKER.

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Additional info about

Additional info about video:

Question: WHY I DID NOT GO ALL IN ON TURN?

Answer:I was thinking either should I go allin or either should I bet half pot. I am almost sure the result(him folding) would be the same also by going allin. Also, I think that half pot raise(after 3-bet on flop) on turn is very powerful move (in this case it is saying: I know I am better (and I will probably be better after showdown) but I want a little more of your chips; he does not want to chase his options; very low percentage to hit river that would helped him; and he does not want to give me more chips, so he folds;I also allowed him to reraise me(even more powerful move); something like this). This is my opinion.

adam25185's picture
It looks like you have

It looks like you have provided a very in-depth explanation. However, we can see from the video that your thinking time was ~1 second. At a risk of trolling here, I'm going to say you probably thought all this up AFTER the hand. I'm also going to say that I think you should post some hands where you didn't come out on top (we all have them) so that the forum can assist you with improving your game. 

It reminds me of when I started getting coaching: I only wanted to review games where I won. Nobody is going to laugh at you, just post your mistakes!

gl :)

crazydonk's picture
As I say before, I appreciate

As I say before, I appreciate your opinion. I will not try to convince anybody to believe me. I actually do not care if people do not believe me(I do not have influence on people´s opinion; Also, I am not trying convince anybody to think defferent). I am just sharing my opinion in poker. 

Reply to your post:

Yes, I thought someone would write or ask me about this. I will make reply as short as i could(I will probably make some videos in which I will talk more about this - kind of strategy).  I have played alot of HU games(Hypers). I can do very quick decisions but only if I determine how my opponent is playing(his ranges,...) If I do that I am playing allmost automatic - less then second before my move(I have played alot, so I have experienced alot of situations like this; and most of the time results of situations are the same,...). But If I want to explain this to other poker players, I must write better explanation why I did every move(and I must write alot more - especially If i want to make videos that are understandable for begginer poker players). This is also the reasons why I add aditional information after I make video in parts (like for example in this thread). In the video I put thoughts (briefly explanation). And then I put better explanation (alot more written) in additional information if I think that some sentence or move in the video needs additional explanation ( or if someone ask me for better explanation). I am doing everything allmost automatic in reality (becouse of reasons mentioned above plus some more (making video about that,... in future).

I am actually planing to make videos of my bluffs that went wrong(we are playing game of poker; nobody can win 100 percent games; nobody makes just "plus" moves) - sometime(maybe not in near future) - this is different part of poker(not so good part, but you can not go pass that in poker). But I usually do not consider them bad moves(well sure some of the moves I make are not the best(rarely); by this I do not mean moves of those 2 videos I posted),...

I am not saying that everybody should play like me(my plan is not to teach people how to play poker). But i really think it is cool to see how other people play and how other people think about poker. This is one of the reasons that i make videos. Also, even if I make videos I do not think that I play perfect poker or that I am the best in the world. I think nobody plays perfect poker and everybody should learn every day something new about poker if we want to improve in our skills. I think everybody should be very open minded about poker.

If you think I am trolling, i really suggest you stop watching my videos (I know I do not watch videos of people that in my opinion are trolling).

 

Anyway, thank you for your advices and help.