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si3g3l's picture
win in spin

hi every body my name is victor i play poker 2 years on cg and mtt. I come from french (then sorry for my english i work on ^^), on september 2015 i start spin and go

i like that but i'm loser i have 33% itm on 1s for 5K games. On march i cost the pack beat spin for coffeeyay but i still not winner

i decide to whrite a blog , because i can speak about play, review and strategy.

I hope that his you interest :)

si3g3l's picture
range PF

so first , i want speak about my range préflop , what do you think? did i leak?

si3g3l's picture
my range  raise/call AI or

my range  raise/call AI or 4bet AI on HU sb: 99-AA, AKo-A6o, AKs-A4s =12,97%

my range raise/call Min 3bet on HU sb: KQo-KJo, QJo, KQs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs=4,5%

my range raise/fold on HU sb : KTo-K2o, QTo-Q2o, JTo-J2o, T9o-T2o, 92o+, 87o-82o, 76o-72o, 65o-62o, 54o-52o, 43o-42o, 32o, K8s-K7s, J9s-J8s, T9s-T7s, 97s+= 59,73%

my range limp on sb HU:K6s-K2s, Q6s-Q2s, J2s+, T6s-T2s, 96s-92s, 86s-82s, 76s-72s, 65s-62s, 54s-52s, 43s-42s, 32s=14,7%

 

I open push 22-88=3%

coffeeyay's picture
These ranges are really

These ranges are really really bad :(

Couple quick notes--wanting to call a 3b shove, and wanting to 4b are very different things, you should be 4betting wayyyy less than calling shoves (I 4b shove AK AQ and sometimes JJ QQ and sometimes small 4b AA KK depending on player). Second your 3b call shove range is terrible. You should call way more pocket pairs (33 is close, 44+ is call snap call), way fewer Ax (A9o A8s is pretty good readless), and you should consider calling some suited broadway (JTs, QTs+, KTs+) though this can be close due to win-rate maxing (though at your level it maybe is best not to assume winrate...).

Open shoving 55-88 is burning money, 44 is often not a shove but not a big deal, and 22-33 are fine to open shove whenever (though advanced players can squeeze out more edge limp/min-raising until fairly shallow).

Your range for calling NAI 3b is way too tight. Something like K9o+ Q9o+ J9o+ T9o, K7s+ Q8s+ J8s+ T7s+ 97s+ 86s+ 75s+ 54s is a quite tight range that can work well for beginners, generally "real" flat ranges are quite a bit wider (so yours is insanely tight!).

Lastly your minr and limp ranges are also really messed up. Generally, deep(ish) stacked, you want to min-raise suited playable hands, and limp a lot more weak off-suit hands. There's room where a wide variety of limp vs minr ranges works, but your construction really doesn't make a lot of sense...

Since you have my Spins pack, maybe review the HU crash course and the range suggestions there? There's so many issues with your ranges that it goes a bit beyond the small adjustments/fine tuning that can be done in a forum.

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HH hero call

hello everybody what do you think about this play ?

how do i calculate of my call ? i know i have a oeswd and trip ( 8+3=11 odds) and i do invest 125 in 305 chip

 

my call are clear ???

 

Winamax Poker - Tournament "Expresso" buyIn: 0€ + 2€ level: 1 - HandId: #673317697961852929-8-1461349820 - Holdem no limit (15/30) - 2016/04/22 18:30:20 UTC
Table: 'Expresso(156768993)#0' 3-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: XoX   zoouko (215)
Seat 2: si3g3l (1285)
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
XoX   zoouko posts small blind 15
si3g3l posts big blind 30
Dealt to si3g3l [6h 7s]
*** PRE-FLOP ***
XoX   zoouko calls 15
si3g3l checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 8h 9c]
si3g3l bets 60
XoX   zoouko raises 125 to 185 and is all-in
si3g3l raises 125 to 310
*** TURN *** [6c 8h 9c][Js]
*** RIVER *** [6c 8h 9c Js][Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
XoX   zoouko shows [8c 6s] (Two pairs : 8 and 6)
si3g3l shows [6h 7s] (One pair : 6)
si3g3l collected 125 from side pot 1
XoX   zoouko collected 430 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 555 | No rake
Board: [6c 8h 9c Js Ks]
Seat 1: XoX   zoouko (small blind) (button) showed [8c 6s] and won 430 with Two pairs : 8 and 6
Seat 2: si3g3l (big blind) showed [6h 7s] and won 125 with One pair : 6

pbogz1114's picture
Hey,  Well I think your

Hey,

 Well I think your ranges are a bit off, for example a min raise call with a6o is a little to light imo. Although the best way to figure this out is to give your opponent a range and figure out how much equity you need to make that call vs a particular range. ( while including pot odds etc) Coffeecals is a very good software that makes that a lot easier to do, As for the HH, Once you be that hand you have to call it off because of his stack size. You can also try checking back 3rd pair to balance ur ranges which is very complex. ( coaching might be a good idea). Also, while heads up, using a limping strategy goes a very long way under 25 bbs :) 

 

Hope this helps!! 

 

 

Pbogz

View my coaching page.

coffeeyay's picture
Donking the flop in this hand

Donking the flop in this hand is a big mistake. Easy way to increase your win-rate as a new player is never donk flops, ever! Donking ranges are only useful in very advanced play, it's something to look to incorporate into your game once you are crushing and have no place left to turn to increase edge--it should be one of the very last things you work on, and until then you're guaranteed to do better never ever donking flops.

As played, yeah call the shove... It's just a pot odds question, you can use propokertools.com or pokerstove or a number of different equity tools to figure this out. You need to call 125 chips to win a pot of 430 (notice that you had these numbers wrong in your post ;) ). This means you need at least 29% equity. Even vs the worst case strong value hands like two pair you have about enough (vs villains 86o you have 28% (http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=9c8h6c&g=he&h1=8c6s&h2=7...) and versus the much more common top pair you have 45% (http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=9c8h6c&g=he&h1=K9&h2=7s6...) so you're basically guaranteed to have enough equity vs his shoving range--especially since he could bluff shove a draw.

But really, donking here is really bad! X/call is standard :) X/r shoving will also be fine.

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ty

ok i understand:) really thank you for your answer 

i buy the spin and go pack this month and i see all video but i have make planning for a trainning 

every week i'm concentrate about a subject  for example this week i work my HU strategy and the next week the BU 3 handed strategy.

 

but i have a other question how many game i have to make every day 

actually i play 6 table and i make 200 game per day are this excess ??

coffeeyay's picture
Yeah you're very likely

Yeah you're very likely playing too many tables. With fewer tables you will have a higher ROI, which means less variance which is extremely important for a young and growing bankroll. On top of that with fewer tables you can focus more on each decision which lets you improve more as you play. With fewer tables you'll be making more money long term because of this investment in learning. As for 200 games, it's much better to measure volume in terms of time played. Then you wont' worry as much about tables, it's all about how much time you play quality poker. Make the most of your time, but realize that with fewer tables yes you'll play fewer games, but you'll make more money per game and make more "learning money" per game. Thinking about volume in terms of time also lets you compare study volume to play volume--see how many hours are spent on each. Initially you may want to study as much as 1:1 grind:study ratio, but very quickly you should move into closer to a 3:1 grind:study ratio so that you can incorporate all the things you're learning (and grow your bankroll!). As your game strengthens and your hourly grinding goes up you can start moving your ratio closer to 4:1 or 5:1, but this should come after a lot of time and at higher stakes.

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HH review

hi every body what do you think about this hand . i think i make a mistake on the flop with my bet 1/2 i can just check but when the opponent raise i think i can't fold because i have 2nd pair+flush draw ,i make a 4bet AI because i think i have the best odds for the flush versus opponent at this hand

 

Winamax Poker - Tournament "Expresso" buyIn: 0€ + 2€ level: 0 - HandId: #675368454651379713-7-1461778161 - Holdem no limit (10/20) - 2016/04/27 17:29:21 UTC
Table: 'Expresso(157246472)#0' 3-max (real money) Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: si3g3l (520)
Seat 2: bluffeurdu30 (620)
Seat 3: LePokKing (360)
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
si3g3l posts small blind 10
bluffeurdu30 posts big blind 20
Dealt to si3g3l [Ts 3s]
*** PRE-FLOP ***
LePokKing folds
si3g3l calls 10
bluffeurdu30 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 5s Td]
si3g3l bets 40
bluffeurdu30 raises 120 to 160
si3g3l raises 340 to 500 and is all-in
bluffeurdu30 calls 340
*** TURN *** [Ks 5s Td][6d]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 5s Td 6d][7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
si3g3l shows [Ts 3s] (One pair : Tens)
bluffeurdu30 shows [6h Kc] (Two pairs : Kings and 6)
bluffeurdu30 collected 1040 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1040 | No rake
Board: [Ks 5s Td 6d 7c]
Seat 1: si3g3l (small blind) showed [Ts 3s] and lost with One pair : Tens
Seat 2: bluffeurdu30 (big blind) showed [6h Kc] and won 1040 with Two pairs : Kings and 6

coffeeyay's picture
Bet flop is fine, EV will be

Bet flop is fine, EV will be very similar to x/call. I slightly prefer X/call, but really not a big deal.

As played, it's a clear flat vs his raise. You have a great drawing hand + bluff catcher, it's the perfect flat. It's also a hand that 3b shoves quite poorly because his calling range will have very good equity vs you (villain's value isn't doing amazing, because you have a combo draw--(which does make this sometimes a semi-bluff in highly advanced games)--, but his calling range is definitely ahead of our hand and will likely have around 60% equity vs your hand) while his folding range will have very poor value vs you (you have pair and flushdraw so you both beat missed hands with room to call on later streets, and can get implied odds from his weak draws by hitting the flushdraw when they hit two-pair or a straight, so all in all the hands we fold out by shoving figure to be winning 10-15% of the pot at most vs us. It's very unlikely our opponent will fold a hand that has very much equity, let alone a hand that we are behind except a few draws which we often block). So all in all, our hand doesn't value raise well because it's behind villain's calling range, and it doesn't bluff well because villain's folding range had very low value versus us and therefore were all correct folds.

So at that point it's better to just call. We aren't winning more than 50% of the pot, and so don't want to build it unless we have a lot of value from folds--both quantity and quallity--but we are winning enough of the pot--likley around 40-45%--that we can flat his bet happily.

Our worst option in this spot is to fold to the raise. So it's worth noting that 3b shoving here "isn't so bad" in the sense that it's a lot better then folding. Still, the passive line here is best. Flat, and try to play the turn situations that come up as profitably as you can, don't be scared! Flatting is opportunities waiting to happen on the next street.

Hope this helps!
Adam
 

si3g3l's picture
hh

hello everybody 

what do you means about this play ?

i now donking is not for begginer so we can fold this solution , i think the best solution now is C/R AI because 14 odds so i have (14x4) 56% equity ?? 

 

Winamax Poker - Tournament "Expresso" buyIn: 0€ + 2€ level: 1 - HandId: #673317697961852929-8-1461349820 - Holdem no limit (15/30) - 2016/04/22 18:30:20 UTC
Table: 'Expresso(156768993)#0' 3-max (real money) Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: XoX   zoouko (215)
Seat 2: si3g3l (1285)
*** ANTE/BLINDS ***
XoX   zoouko posts small blind 15
si3g3l posts big blind 30
Dealt to si3g3l [6h 7s]
*** PRE-FLOP ***
XoX   zoouko calls 15
si3g3l checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 8h 9c]
si3g3l bets 60
XoX   zoouko raises 125 to 185 and is all-in
si3g3l raises 125 to 310
*** TURN *** [6c 8h 9c][Js]
*** RIVER *** [6c 8h 9c Js][Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
XoX   zoouko shows [8c 6s] (Two pairs : 8 and 6)
si3g3l shows [6h 7s] (One pair : 6)
si3g3l collected 125 from side pot 1
XoX   zoouko collected 430 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 555 | No rake
Board: [6c 8h 9c Js Ks]
Seat 1: XoX   zoouko (small blind) (button) showed [8c 6s] and won 430 with Two pairs : 8 and 6
Seat 2: si3g3l (big blind) showed [6h 7s] and won 125 with One pair : 6

vherreral's picture
why play on winamax?, doesn't

why play on winamax?, doesn't ps.fr offer cheaper low stake spins?

VHL

si3g3l's picture
because we have a race  to

because we have a race  to give money 

and i'm good statut to winamax unlike to ps 

 

 

coffeeyay's picture
As I said before, don't donk

As I said before, don't donk :P Instead x/call. X/shove is better than x/f and better than donking, but x/call is best.

As played, call the shove with pair+oesd.

si3g3l's picture
oh yes now i understand we

oh yes now i understand we you say don't donk :) really sorry

 

for me  the bet for the flop is just for take the dead money because he is passive pre flop ( now i never do it again) 

 

but you said X/call is better but when whe have a air for the turn we just can fold , whereas i think for me ( a beginner ) x/shove is better

can we make X/shove for any flush draw k-high or A-high ?