hmm. Would you be OK with keeping your old thread? Just for the directory's sake it would be cool if people could find each person's discussion in one place. No big deal though of coruse.
Couple of hands.These were all against the same player. Notes:
-1% over 11k / -$30k in HU, but $172k overallwatch for bet sizing leaks !Flats 3bets with Q7o and huge jam over cbet on Q65ccFlats 3bet with Q9o, when I chk on 4J7-rb he bets, chks back K-turn, ob-jams J-riverchk/jams K9o on J9Jdd at 15/30, full stcksmindonk/calls 376hh with GS (K4dd), chks turn Qh, chks river 9hmin3bets 35o, then chks down A-highdoes not cbet bp on A-high ? seen 3/4 cbet on A-high beforedoes not 3bet 88, c/c two streets on K-highflats 3bet with AA3bet-jammed a few times @ 10/20, full stackscbets 80/120 with Q5 on Q8Thhd, chks back 8h, then overbets 4hchks back air, but seen 80/120 with TPnK and setflats super wide oop, haven't seen him fold I think
He seriously asked me for a chop this morning, then lost the first 2 matches against me. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$55.00+$2.50 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1330 SBJLande1670 Effective Stacks: 67bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBJLande raises to 60, Hero raises to 160, JLande calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande bets 245, Hero calls 245 Turn (810, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande checks River (810, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande goes all-in 1265, Hero goes all-in 925 Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows two pair, Jacks and Tens JLande shows a pair of Jacks Hero wins 2660 ( won +1330 ) JLande lost -1330 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$55.00+$2.50 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1515 BBJLande1485 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 100, JLande calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) JLande checks, Hero bets 100, JLande goes all-in 1385, Hero calls 1285 Turn (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2970 Hero shows a full house, Jacks full of Deuces JLande shows two pair, Jacks and Nines Hero wins 2970 ( won +1485 ) JLande lost -1485 Then he won this one: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$55.00+$2.50 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1390 BBJLande1610 Effective Stacks: 46bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, JLande raises to 150, Hero calls 90 Flop (300, 2 players) JLande bets 180, Hero raises to 510, JLande goes all-in 1460, Hero goes all-in 730 Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows two pair, Queens and Tens JLande shows a flush, Ace high JLande wins 3000 ( won +1390 ) Hero lost -1390
Until this point, I think I played it fine. But after that, trouble began ...I've lost the next rematch with top two pair against bottom set and also got the read that he seems to be flatting 3bets ridiculously wide.Hand #4: Good spot for a go and go ?Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero2195 SBJLande805 Effective Stacks: 27bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BBJLande raises to 90, Hero raises to 270, JLande calls 180 Flop (540, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 1925, JLande goes all-in 535 Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 3000
Hand #5: I haven't seen him fold to a single of my 3bets so far, he jammed a few times over my cbets where I folded, so I tried something new.Good spot to turn A-high into a bluff ?Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1260 SBJLande1740 Effective Stacks: 63bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBJLande raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, JLande calls 120 Flop (360, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande bets 290, Hero goes all-in 1080, JLande calls 790 Turn (2520, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (2520, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2520
Ooops, sorry, I didn't see your comment before posting these hands (these were all $55 turbos on Stars, btw. - forgot to mention that I think).Simply wanted to get a fresh start in May. My old thread is here:http://www.husng.com/content/jackoneill-discussion-thread
Hand with KJ on AT9: I generally c/f even with a psb against described Villain. I doubt he will ever fold a 9x or Tx and this flop hits hard his calling range. But I'm curious to know If I am too nitty in this kind of spots
I think jamming the KJ is correct even if he doesn't fold Tx/9x.OK, the AJ hand, good reasoning point to talk about. You think you're bluffing when you crai - I don't really think you are. I don't think he folds anything that beats you that bets this size on the flop. I think your main value is the equity you have when he does have it and all the value from when he doesn't have it or has a worse draw. I would usually bet/call this flop and need some reads that he will stab a lot when checked to to check/raise, but if we do check/raise I think it's really a value c/r against his draws/air and the fact that we're doing just fine vs his 5x.
Sorry, I've been very busy at work last week, so didn't have time for that.Just entered myself for Wednesday, but could also do Tuesday if that's better for you.
This guy is 4% over 22k @ $52 / +$23k overall, but -2% over 2k @ $81 / -$3k in HU.This is hand #5 in the match, he opened his first 2 buttons. I this too early to 3-bet as a bluff ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBYashiro821480 BBHero1520 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBYashiro82 raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, Yashiro82 calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 150, Yashiro82 calls 150 Turn (540, 2 players) Hero checks, Yashiro82 bets 280, Hero folds Final Pot: 820
Hand #13, I opened 100% of his buttons so far, I folded all of them except that 86o hand where I bluff-3-bet him.So in theory, I should have a lot of fold-equity here. Should I just check/fold this flop ? And my 2nd barrel was terrible, wasn't it ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBYashiro821740 BBHero1260 Effective Stacks: 63bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBYashiro82 raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, Yashiro82 calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 150, Yashiro82 calls 150 Turn (540, 2 players) Hero checks, Yashiro82 checks River (540, 2 players) Hero bets 320, Yashiro82 calls 320 Final Pot: 1180
I lost that hand against JT. Two hands later - ie. his next button - I 3-bet jammed A5o for 22 bb and he snapped it off with Q9s.After that, I won a few smalish pots in position where I went for some thin value.He kept opening 100%, but folded to all my subsequent 3bets, so I started to 3bet him a ton with junk hands and call with value hands.Now, in this hand, I just 3bet him I think 7 times in a row (folded a few hands in between), he did not adjust - kept opening 100% and folded to all my 3bets.What's my plan here with AQo for 19bb ? I'm not worried at all about being beat hear, just want to take the most profitable line with this hand.One could make a point for not 3betting this hand since it's too strong and we don't want him to fold - but on the other hand, I just 3bet him like 7 times in a row, so he should get frustrated about that at some point and decide to play back ...Let's say he flats instead of coming over the top, what's my plan on this flop ? Since he folded so much before, I'd actually give him a pretty tight flatting range and he'd probably jam AK and good PP's. So he shouldn't have too many draw in his range, it's basically Jx or air, do you agree ?Hmm, just realized that the pot is 480 with 505 behind if he flats ... which means this was a terrible 3bet size.And I'd just openjam this flop if he ever flats, I guess ? Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBYashiro82745 BBHero2255 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)Hero is BBYashiro82 raises to 80, Hero raises to 240, Yashiro82 goes all-in 745, Hero calls 505 Flop (1490, 2 players, 1 all-in) Turn (1490, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (1490, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 1490
Early against some random donk.Standard to gii or should I bet/fold otf ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBrablou_mihai1450 SBHero1550 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, rablou_mihai raises to 140, Hero calls 80 Flop (280, 2 players) rablou_mihai bets 20, Hero raises to 235, rablou_mihai goes all-in 1310, Hero calls 1075 Turn (2900, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (2900, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2900
Wednesday is perfect. Sounds good.I think saying categorically 3bet bluffing with a decent hand to do it with (86o) 75bb deep is bad is unwise (confusing sentence but this means I think it's OK to do). A lot of the benefit comes from building up a dynamic and it's kind of like looking at someone's HUD stats and saying "you should 3bet more", it doesn't make a ton of sense. I'm OK with the play especially given your hand.I would c-bet smaller. I think half pot is all you need for what you want to accomplish on this flop.
I wouldn't 3bet bluff with 94o, despite raising his first six buttons. I'd pick a hand with better playability to do it with.I think c-betting flop is best, and I would give up on this turn/river. If you want to fold out straight draws a smaller river bet is best.
"Hmm, just realized that the pot is 480 with 505 behind if he flats ... which means this was a terrible 3bet size."I disagree. 1:1 is just fine. Bad 3-bet sizes are when you're left with like 600 with 450 in the pot.I usually just jam AQ pre but I'm fine with the big 3bet/call. I definitely wouldn't do a smaller 3bet because of how well a ton of his hands play against your specific hand when he flats and plays the pot in position. We need a specific dynamic that makes us think we can induce if we make a smaller 3bet.
Cool. Thanks a lot for your comments and looking forward to Wednesday !Oh, and regarding that T9dd hand - just looked at PT3 and realized I'm up 140 bb equity adjusted this session, so I must be doing something right ....
Hi Mers, Morning Everyone !Really enjoyed our coaching session on Wednesday :-)My topic for today is, standard spots against unknowns, all these hands very played very early in a match against an unknown opponent.
Readless, I probably fold the river in hand 1 with the JT, although it's a weird one. You'll see a lot of trips play it this way and you only beat a bluff.Raise and get it in is standard with the AT.I sigh and call river with the T9 as well given how small the bet is, but we are beat the vast majority of the time.I think c-betting the AT is very important - when he has Tx, it's super important to start getting money in the pot so that we can get the entire stacks if a K hits. We also just have a hand that can stand up to a check raise and plays a lot better than letting our opponent realize equity when we just have ace high. The rest of the hand looks good.Edit: Sorry! The forum spazzed.
Thanks a lot for your feedback !Regarding the AT hand, what's our plan if we get c/r here ?I just read this discussion:http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/50-high-fd-qj9-what-do-flop-1035373/before playing the hand.Similar situation and several of the posters (including me) say it's bad to gii over a c/r since we don't have any feq and are up against 2pair+ a lot.So with standing up against a check/raise, do you mean gii or flatting ? And what's our plan if we flat and an A hits ? I'm a bit confused here.
In the T9 hand, what's my plan if I don't turn an OESD ? I used to calldown super light against 1st hand donkbettors, but ran a lot into weak top pair type hands recently, so I'm wondering whether that's such a good idea.So if the turn is a blank, that's a fold ? Or look him up one more street, then fold river ?And what's my plan if the board runs out as it did and he bets bigger otr ? I think I would have snap-called anything between 2/3rd and 3/4th pot-size because of the oesd that missed, is that a good thing to do ? This super small sizing made me very worried that I'm beat.
When we get check raised with the AT on that QJ9 board, we call :) Unless it's really huge or something in which case we can fold. A3hh hand is interesting, on any other board I'm just jamming, but given reads and board I think we can flat. If an ace comes with the AT we call down.There's enough straight draws that I think we can call blank turns with the T9 as well, then it depends on river card and river size. I usually fold river though.I would fold to bigger river bets - there's not a lot of pure air in his range, mostly random air on flop that picked up a straight draw on the turn. All of the straight draws on the flop hit some kind of piece. So there's not enough air to call a polarizing bigger bet. I don't love facing a smaller bet either but you'll see people show up with worse made hands with this line enough of the time.
Ok guys, I think it's finally the time that you can actually learn something from me:How to experience true happiness in life ! Just have a look at the following hand: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1818 SBcoparin691182 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)Hero is BB coparin69 calls 20, Hero raises to 160, coparin69 calls 120 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero bets 200, coparin69 calls 200 Turn (720, 2 players) Hero bets 200, coparin69 calls 200 River (1120, 2 players) Hero bets 1111, coparin69 goes all-in 622 Final Pot: 2853Hero shows four of a kind, Nines coparin69 shows a straight flush, Nine to King coparin69 wins 2364 ( won +1182 ) Hero lost -1182 And now .... don't get mad or anything - just smile, say nh and move on.
:-)About to sign a peace treaty with the Lucian Alliance ... and rumors are that Rodney already figured out how to dial the 9th chevron !So excited about this and looking forward to step through the Stargate to Destiny in a few days ....
Early in the match against some random SuperNova: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBggman21500 BBHero1500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBggman2 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, ggman2 bets 50, Hero raises to 140, ggman2 calls 90 Turn (360, 2 players) Hero bets 180, ggman2 calls 180 River (720, 2 players) Hero checks, ggman2 goes all-in 1140, Hero folds Final Pot: 1860 ggman2 wins 1860 ( won +360 ) Hero lost -360
Only note I had about this guy was that he's a random fish: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1812 BBlukano-x1188 Effective Stacks: 59bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, lukano-x calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) lukano-x checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) lukano-x bets 40, Hero raises to 120, lukano-x raises to 240, Hero calls 120 River (560, 2 players) lukano-x bets 420, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 980
This guy is a small stakes reg, he definitely has a fold button.Good spot to try to move him off 8x / weak Kx ? I figured I never have the best hand here, so flatting is not an option - but there's a decent change he'll fold to a raise.Problem is, however, that I don't really rep anything except 89 or some slowplayed good Ax. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBAwrimas1350 SBHero1650 Effective Stacks: 45bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, Awrimas calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Awrimas checks, Hero bets 60, Awrimas calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Awrimas checks, Hero checks River (240, 2 players) Awrimas bets 90, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 330
This guy limped almost all his buttons so far, don't think I've seen him open at all so far - and now he suddenly makes it 3x. What's my plan with a small PP here, standard to get it in ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1870 SBnorman0011130 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBnorman001 raises to 150, Hero goes all-in 1870, norman001 goes all-in 980 Flop (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: 3000
This guy just ran two crazy bluffs post-flop against me, hasn't done anything out of the line pre-flop, though.First hand, it went check check on 8h5d5h, then he check/called half pot on the 2d turn and then on the Ac river with 160 in the pot, I bet 80 and he check/raised me to 180 with Jack high no pair no draw.Shortly after that, he check/minraised a rainbow T66 flop, bet half pot on a blank turn and bet 280 into 480 on a Jack that completed a backdoor flush - he had Queen high, no pair no draw.Then, he check/called two streets on an A-high board with a flush-draw and check/folded on the river.Right next hand, he 3bet-jams over my minraise.First time he 3bet me at all, I've been opening close to 100% of my buttons.What's my calling range here ?My normal reaction is to fold, but then I had the impression that he might just be frustrated because none of his bluffs worked so far. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1826 BBKimmi-Casidy1174 Effective Stacks: 39bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, Kimmi-Casidy goes all-in 1174, Hero calls 1114 Flop (2348, 2 players, 1 all-in) Turn (2348, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2348, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2348
Early on against some unknown fish.Was really unsure about my turn decision here - after the 4th straight-card hit, my plan was to just check/fold and give up - or should I bet/fold here ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1490 SBsniperjok1510 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBsniperjok raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, sniperjok bets 20, Hero raises to 120, sniperjok calls 100 Turn (320, 2 players) Hero checks, sniperjok checks River (320, 2 players) Hero checks, sniperjok bets 380, Hero goes all-in 1330, sniperjok calls 950 Final Pot: 2980
With the 76, it's pretty close between bet/folding small on the river, and check/evaluating. I'd probably go for the small bet route. As played, I'm definitely folding as well.
I think c-betting the flop is definitely best with the K2, there's no need to let him realize his equity so easily with so many hands in his range. I would flat the turn lead. We want to give him an opportunity to bluff his air on the river, and there's not a ton we're getting value out of compared against Kx/Jx.I would actually fold to his turn 3-bet, altough I understand the instinct to call. It's very unlikely for him to have a worse hand there, and it's going to be Jx a ton.
I think folding is generally best with the QT. Most decent regs know that your line is FOS when you check back turn and raise this river, and know that their Kx is likely best. I'd need reads that my opponent was too tight and unthinking to raise here.
Thanks a lot for your comments !So in that ATo hand, he had AJs - but he 3bet jammed with some trash hand in the rematch.In that QJ hand - well, I usually don't do that try to fold out a chop thing but yeah - there's a non-zero chance that he'll timeout / misread the hand and folds ;-)
So after my 119 games marathon session, I'll take a short break from the tables tomorrow and do a learning day.It's already the 22nd and I haven't had much time to read the other student's threads. Definitely want to make the best use of the forum now.
Only have one interesting hand today, that's actually from yesterday's marathon session.Some unknown SuperNova sat me, no reads, this was very early in the match: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1520 SBRJRJ1480 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBRJRJ raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, RJRJ bets 120, Hero raises to 300, RJRJ goes all-in 1420, Hero calls 1120 Turn (2960, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (2960, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2960I think I even would have folded K8 here and just flatted with Q8 - but can I gii here with TPK readless ? Really, really hated this when he came over the top, though.
hmm. Would you be OK with keeping your old thread? Just for the directory's sake it would be cool if people could find each person's discussion in one place. No big deal though of coruse.
Couple of hands.These were all against the same player. Notes:
He seriously asked me for a chop this morning, then lost the first 2 matches against me. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$55.00+$2.50 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1330 SBJLande1670 Effective Stacks: 67bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB JLande raises to 60, Hero raises to 160, JLande calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande bets 245, Hero calls 245 Turn (810, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande checks River (810, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande goes all-in 1265, Hero goes all-in 925 Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows two pair, Jacks and Tens JLande shows a pair of Jacks Hero wins 2660 ( won +1330 ) JLande lost -1330 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$55.00+$2.50 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1515 BBJLande1485 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 100, JLande calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) JLande checks, Hero bets 100, JLande goes all-in 1385, Hero calls 1285 Turn (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2970 Hero shows a full house, Jacks full of Deuces JLande shows two pair, Jacks and Nines Hero wins 2970 ( won +1485 ) JLande lost -1485 Then he won this one: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$55.00+$2.50 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1390 BBJLande1610 Effective Stacks: 46bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, JLande raises to 150, Hero calls 90 Flop (300, 2 players) JLande bets 180, Hero raises to 510, JLande goes all-in 1460, Hero goes all-in 730 Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows two pair, Queens and Tens JLande shows a flush, Ace high JLande wins 3000 ( won +1390 ) Hero lost -1390
Until this point, I think I played it fine. But after that, trouble began ...I've lost the next rematch with top two pair against bottom set and also got the read that he seems to be flatting 3bets ridiculously wide.Hand #4: Good spot for a go and go ?Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero2195 SBJLande805 Effective Stacks: 27bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB JLande raises to 90, Hero raises to 270, JLande calls 180 Flop (540, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 1925, JLande goes all-in 535 Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 3000
Hand #5: I haven't seen him fold to a single of my 3bets so far, he jammed a few times over my cbets where I folded, so I tried something new.Good spot to turn A-high into a bluff ?Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1260 SBJLande1740 Effective Stacks: 63bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB JLande raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, JLande calls 120 Flop (360, 2 players) Hero checks, JLande bets 290, Hero goes all-in 1080, JLande calls 790 Turn (2520, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2520, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2520
Ooops, sorry, I didn't see your comment before posting these hands (these were all $55 turbos on Stars, btw. - forgot to mention that I think).Simply wanted to get a fresh start in May. My old thread is here:http://www.husng.com/content/jackoneill-discussion-thread
Hand with KJ on AT9: I generally c/f even with a psb against described Villain. I doubt he will ever fold a 9x or Tx and this flop hits hard his calling range. But I'm curious to know If I am too nitty in this kind of spots
I think jamming the KJ is correct even if he doesn't fold Tx/9x.OK, the AJ hand, good reasoning point to talk about. You think you're bluffing when you crai - I don't really think you are. I don't think he folds anything that beats you that bets this size on the flop. I think your main value is the equity you have when he does have it and all the value from when he doesn't have it or has a worse draw. I would usually bet/call this flop and need some reads that he will stab a lot when checked to to check/raise, but if we do check/raise I think it's really a value c/r against his draws/air and the fact that we're doing just fine vs his 5x.
any reason for only making it 160 pre with TT in hand one? or were you not aware of how ridic wide he flats 3bs at this point?
If you can, please book the time for your private coaching session soon:https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArheGtnXQJ2MdHMzcnpBMi0tMmo1NDI...
Sorry, I've been very busy at work last week, so didn't have time for that.Just entered myself for Wednesday, but could also do Tuesday if that's better for you.
This guy is 4% over 22k @ $52 / +$23k overall, but -2% over 2k @ $81 / -$3k in HU.This is hand #5 in the match, he opened his first 2 buttons. I this too early to 3-bet as a bluff ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBYashiro821480 BBHero1520 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Yashiro82 raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, Yashiro82 calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 150, Yashiro82 calls 150 Turn (540, 2 players) Hero checks, Yashiro82 bets 280, Hero folds Final Pot: 820
Hand #13, I opened 100% of his buttons so far, I folded all of them except that 86o hand where I bluff-3-bet him.So in theory, I should have a lot of fold-equity here. Should I just check/fold this flop ? And my 2nd barrel was terrible, wasn't it ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBYashiro821740 BBHero1260 Effective Stacks: 63bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Yashiro82 raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, Yashiro82 calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 150, Yashiro82 calls 150 Turn (540, 2 players) Hero checks, Yashiro82 checks River (540, 2 players) Hero bets 320, Yashiro82 calls 320 Final Pot: 1180
I lost that hand against JT. Two hands later - ie. his next button - I 3-bet jammed A5o for 22 bb and he snapped it off with Q9s.After that, I won a few smalish pots in position where I went for some thin value.He kept opening 100%, but folded to all my subsequent 3bets, so I started to 3bet him a ton with junk hands and call with value hands.Now, in this hand, I just 3bet him I think 7 times in a row (folded a few hands in between), he did not adjust - kept opening 100% and folded to all my 3bets.What's my plan here with AQo for 19bb ? I'm not worried at all about being beat hear, just want to take the most profitable line with this hand.One could make a point for not 3betting this hand since it's too strong and we don't want him to fold - but on the other hand, I just 3bet him like 7 times in a row, so he should get frustrated about that at some point and decide to play back ...Let's say he flats instead of coming over the top, what's my plan on this flop ? Since he folded so much before, I'd actually give him a pretty tight flatting range and he'd probably jam AK and good PP's. So he shouldn't have too many draw in his range, it's basically Jx or air, do you agree ?Hmm, just realized that the pot is 480 with 505 behind if he flats ... which means this was a terrible 3bet size.And I'd just openjam this flop if he ever flats, I guess ? Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBYashiro82745 BBHero2255 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB Yashiro82 raises to 80, Hero raises to 240, Yashiro82 goes all-in 745, Hero calls 505 Flop (1490, 2 players, 1 all-in) Turn (1490, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (1490, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 1490
Early against some random donk.Standard to gii or should I bet/fold otf ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBrablou_mihai1450 SBHero1550 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, rablou_mihai raises to 140, Hero calls 80 Flop (280, 2 players) rablou_mihai bets 20, Hero raises to 235, rablou_mihai goes all-in 1310, Hero calls 1075 Turn (2900, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2900, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2900
Wednesday is perfect. Sounds good.I think saying categorically 3bet bluffing with a decent hand to do it with (86o) 75bb deep is bad is unwise (confusing sentence but this means I think it's OK to do). A lot of the benefit comes from building up a dynamic and it's kind of like looking at someone's HUD stats and saying "you should 3bet more", it doesn't make a ton of sense. I'm OK with the play especially given your hand.I would c-bet smaller. I think half pot is all you need for what you want to accomplish on this flop.
I wouldn't 3bet bluff with 94o, despite raising his first six buttons. I'd pick a hand with better playability to do it with.I think c-betting flop is best, and I would give up on this turn/river. If you want to fold out straight draws a smaller river bet is best.
"Hmm, just realized that the pot is 480 with 505 behind if he flats ... which means this was a terrible 3bet size."I disagree. 1:1 is just fine. Bad 3-bet sizes are when you're left with like 600 with 450 in the pot.I usually just jam AQ pre but I'm fine with the big 3bet/call. I definitely wouldn't do a smaller 3bet because of how well a ton of his hands play against your specific hand when he flats and plays the pot in position. We need a specific dynamic that makes us think we can induce if we make a smaller 3bet.
Stove T9dd against QJ and get back to me (hint: bet/fold is not an option) :)
Cool. Thanks a lot for your comments and looking forward to Wednesday !Oh, and regarding that T9dd hand - just looked at PT3 and realized I'm up 140 bb equity adjusted this session, so I must be doing something right ....
Hi Mers, Morning Everyone !Really enjoyed our coaching session on Wednesday :-)My topic for today is, standard spots against unknowns, all these hands very played very early in a match against an unknown opponent.
First hand: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1500 BBjaggLer91500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, jaggLer9 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) jaggLer9 checks, Hero bets 50, jaggLer9 calls 50 Turn (180, 2 players) jaggLer9 checks, Hero bets 100, jaggLer9 raises to 260, Hero calls 160 River (700, 2 players) jaggLer9 bets 540, Hero calls 540 Final Pot: 1780
2nd hand (other opponent). He limped the 1st hand, then folded to a flop stab. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBdrineth1460 SBHero1540 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, drineth raises to 100, Hero calls 60 Flop (200, 2 players) drineth bets 180, Hero raises to 480, drineth goes all-in 1360, Hero calls 880 Turn (2920, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2920, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2920
1st hand: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1500 BBDarkman20001500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Darkman2000 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Darkman2000 bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Darkman2000 bets 80, Hero calls 80 River (320, 2 players) Darkman2000 bets 120, Hero calls 120 Final Pot: 560
1st hand: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1500 BBALEX47741500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, ALEX4774 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ALEX4774 checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) ALEX4774 checks, Hero bets 50, ALEX4774 calls 50 River (180, 2 players) ALEX4774 checks, Hero bets 120, ALEX4774 calls 120 Final Pot: 420 Hero shows a straight, Eight to Queen ALEX4774 shows
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Readless, I probably fold the river in hand 1 with the JT, although it's a weird one. You'll see a lot of trips play it this way and you only beat a bluff.Raise and get it in is standard with the AT.I sigh and call river with the T9 as well given how small the bet is, but we are beat the vast majority of the time.I think c-betting the AT is very important - when he has Tx, it's super important to start getting money in the pot so that we can get the entire stacks if a K hits. We also just have a hand that can stand up to a check raise and plays a lot better than letting our opponent realize equity when we just have ace high. The rest of the hand looks good.Edit: Sorry! The forum spazzed.
Thanks a lot for your feedback !Regarding the AT hand, what's our plan if we get c/r here ?I just read this discussion:http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/50-high-fd-qj9-what-do-flop-1035373/before playing the hand.Similar situation and several of the posters (including me) say it's bad to gii over a c/r since we don't have any feq and are up against 2pair+ a lot.So with standing up against a check/raise, do you mean gii or flatting ? And what's our plan if we flat and an A hits ? I'm a bit confused here.
In the T9 hand, what's my plan if I don't turn an OESD ? I used to calldown super light against 1st hand donkbettors, but ran a lot into weak top pair type hands recently, so I'm wondering whether that's such a good idea.So if the turn is a blank, that's a fold ? Or look him up one more street, then fold river ?And what's my plan if the board runs out as it did and he bets bigger otr ? I think I would have snap-called anything between 2/3rd and 3/4th pot-size because of the oesd that missed, is that a good thing to do ? This super small sizing made me very worried that I'm beat.
When we get check raised with the AT on that QJ9 board, we call :) Unless it's really huge or something in which case we can fold. A3hh hand is interesting, on any other board I'm just jamming, but given reads and board I think we can flat. If an ace comes with the AT we call down.There's enough straight draws that I think we can call blank turns with the T9 as well, then it depends on river card and river size. I usually fold river though.I would fold to bigger river bets - there's not a lot of pure air in his range, mostly random air on flop that picked up a straight draw on the turn. All of the straight draws on the flop hit some kind of piece. So there's not enough air to call a polarizing bigger bet. I don't love facing a smaller bet either but you'll see people show up with worse made hands with this line enough of the time.
Ok guys, I think it's finally the time that you can actually learn something from me:How to experience true happiness in life ! Just have a look at the following hand: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50.00+$2.02 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1818 SBcoparin691182 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB coparin69 calls 20, Hero raises to 160, coparin69 calls 120 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero bets 200, coparin69 calls 200 Turn (720, 2 players) Hero bets 200, coparin69 calls 200 River (1120, 2 players) Hero bets 1111, coparin69 goes all-in 622 Final Pot: 2853 Hero shows four of a kind, Nines coparin69 shows a straight flush, Nine to King coparin69 wins 2364 ( won +1182 ) Hero lost -1182 And now .... don't get mad or anything - just smile, say nh and move on.
Yikes - BBJ anyone?
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Peace treaty with the Lucian Alliance is signed, starting to dial the 9th chevron :-)
Early in the match against some random SuperNova: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBggman21500 BBHero1500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB ggman2 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, ggman2 bets 50, Hero raises to 140, ggman2 calls 90 Turn (360, 2 players) Hero bets 180, ggman2 calls 180 River (720, 2 players) Hero checks, ggman2 goes all-in 1140, Hero folds Final Pot: 1860 ggman2 wins 1860 ( won +360 ) Hero lost -360
Only note I had about this guy was that he's a random fish: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1812 BBlukano-x1188 Effective Stacks: 59bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, lukano-x calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) lukano-x checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) lukano-x bets 40, Hero raises to 120, lukano-x raises to 240, Hero calls 120 River (560, 2 players) lukano-x bets 420, Hero folds Final Pot: 980
This guy is a small stakes reg, he definitely has a fold button.Good spot to try to move him off 8x / weak Kx ? I figured I never have the best hand here, so flatting is not an option - but there's a decent change he'll fold to a raise.Problem is, however, that I don't really rep anything except 89 or some slowplayed good Ax. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBAwrimas1350 SBHero1650 Effective Stacks: 45bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Awrimas calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Awrimas checks, Hero bets 60, Awrimas calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Awrimas checks, Hero checks River (240, 2 players) Awrimas bets 90, Hero folds Final Pot: 330
This guy limped almost all his buttons so far, don't think I've seen him open at all so far - and now he suddenly makes it 3x. What's my plan with a small PP here, standard to get it in ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1870 SBnorman0011130 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB norman001 raises to 150, Hero goes all-in 1870, norman001 goes all-in 980 Flop (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 3000
This guy just ran two crazy bluffs post-flop against me, hasn't done anything out of the line pre-flop, though.First hand, it went check check on 8h5d5h, then he check/called half pot on the 2d turn and then on the Ac river with 160 in the pot, I bet 80 and he check/raised me to 180 with Jack high no pair no draw.Shortly after that, he check/minraised a rainbow T66 flop, bet half pot on a blank turn and bet 280 into 480 on a Jack that completed a backdoor flush - he had Queen high, no pair no draw.Then, he check/called two streets on an A-high board with a flush-draw and check/folded on the river.Right next hand, he 3bet-jams over my minraise.First time he 3bet me at all, I've been opening close to 100% of my buttons.What's my calling range here ?My normal reaction is to fold, but then I had the impression that he might just be frustrated because none of his bluffs worked so far. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1826 BBKimmi-Casidy1174 Effective Stacks: 39bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Kimmi-Casidy goes all-in 1174, Hero calls 1114 Flop (2348, 2 players, 1 all-in) Turn (2348, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2348, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2348
Early on against some unknown fish.Was really unsure about my turn decision here - after the 4th straight-card hit, my plan was to just check/fold and give up - or should I bet/fold here ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1490 SBsniperjok1510 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB sniperjok raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, sniperjok bets 20, Hero raises to 120, sniperjok calls 100 Turn (320, 2 players) Hero checks, sniperjok checks River (320, 2 players) Hero checks, sniperjok bets 380, Hero goes all-in 1330, sniperjok calls 950 Final Pot: 2980
With the 76, it's pretty close between bet/folding small on the river, and check/evaluating. I'd probably go for the small bet route. As played, I'm definitely folding as well.
I think c-betting the flop is definitely best with the K2, there's no need to let him realize his equity so easily with so many hands in his range. I would flat the turn lead. We want to give him an opportunity to bluff his air on the river, and there's not a ton we're getting value out of compared against Kx/Jx.I would actually fold to his turn 3-bet, altough I understand the instinct to call. It's very unlikely for him to have a worse hand there, and it's going to be Jx a ton.
I think folding is generally best with the QT. Most decent regs know that your line is FOS when you check back turn and raise this river, and know that their Kx is likely best. I'd need reads that my opponent was too tight and unthinking to raise here.
Getting it in is still standard I think with 55, but I would fold 22.
I snap it off with ATo+, A8s+, 33+, KQo+ KJs+ for the big jam against the spewy player.
I play the QJ the same, except openjamming river is best :)
Thanks a lot for your comments !So in that ATo hand, he had AJs - but he 3bet jammed with some trash hand in the rematch.In that QJ hand - well, I usually don't do that try to fold out a chop thing but yeah - there's a non-zero chance that he'll timeout / misread the hand and folds ;-)
So after my 119 games marathon session, I'll take a short break from the tables tomorrow and do a learning day.It's already the 22nd and I haven't had much time to read the other student's threads. Definitely want to make the best use of the forum now.
Only have one interesting hand today, that's actually from yesterday's marathon session.Some unknown SuperNova sat me, no reads, this was very early in the match: No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1520 SBRJRJ1480 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB RJRJ raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, RJRJ bets 120, Hero raises to 300, RJRJ goes all-in 1420, Hero calls 1120 Turn (2960, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (2960, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2960I think I even would have folded K8 here and just flatted with Q8 - but can I gii here with TPK readless ? Really, really hated this when he came over the top, though.
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